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    Priest in Britain Advises Congregation to Shoplift

    What do you think? When is it morally acceptable to shoplift? What items do you feel are necessary enough to justify stealing?

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    A priest in Britain is under fire Monday for advising his congregation to shoplift in tough economic times, the Daily Mail reports.

    Father Tim Jones, a 41-year-old clergyman at St. Lawrence Church in York, England, said that shoplifting rather than prostitution or burglary is sometimes the best option for poor people struggling to make ends meet, according to the Web site.

    "My advice as a Christian priest is to shoplift," Jones reportedly told churchgoers during his Sunday sermon. "I do not offer such advice because I think that stealing is a good thing, or because I think it is harmless, for it is neither."

    "I would ask that they do not steal from small family businesses, but from large national businesses knowing that the costs are ultimately passed on to the rest of us in the form of higher prices," he continued.

    "I would ask them not to take any more than they need, for any longer than they need ... My advice does not contradict the Bible's eighth commandment because God's love for the poor and despised outweighs the property rights of the rich."

    Jones' sermon, meanwhile, has been blasted by police, the British Retail Consortium and a local MP who all say that shoplifting is a crime regardless of circumstances.

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    Re: Priest in Britain Advises Congregation to Shoplift

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    What do you think? When is it morally acceptable to shoplift? What items do you feel are necessary enough to justify stealing?

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    I have often wondered about this. Is it ok to steal food if you are starving... ok to steal a coat if you are freezing. Etc.

    I think if I was a store manager, I might look the other way if I saw an obviously poor, emaciated person stealing.

    What would you do?

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    Re: Priest in Britain Advises Congregation to Shoplift

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    I have often wondered about this. Is it ok to steal food if you are starving... ok to steal a coat if you are freezing. Etc.

    I think if I was a store manager, I might look the other way if I saw an obviously poor, emaciated person stealing.

    What would you do?
    If someone was stealing bare necessities, I would most definitely look the other way. If they were stealing steaks or some other more luxurious item, I would feel less sympathetic.

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    Re: Priest in Britain Advises Congregation to Shoplift

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    If someone was stealing bare necessities, I would most definitely look the other way. If they were stealing steaks or some other more luxurious item, I would feel less sympathetic.
    Depends on what they are stealing. I don't think the homeless need Ralph Lauren jackets that cost $1000 a piece and then expect the store owner to look the other way.

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    Re: Priest in Britain Advises Congregation to Shoplift

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    I have often wondered about this. Is it ok to steal food if you are starving... ok to steal a coat if you are freezing. Etc.

    I think if I was a store manager, I might look the other way if I saw an obviously poor, emaciated person stealing.

    What would you do?
    Some people actually ask.
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    Re: Priest in Britain Advises Congregation to Shoplift

    I don't mind stealing bread
    From the mouths of decadence
    But I can't feed on the powerless
    When my cup's already overfilled,
    But it's on the table
    The fire is cooking
    And they're farming babies
    While slaves are working
    Blood is on the table
    And the mouths are choking
    But I'm growing hungry

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    Re: Priest in Britain Advises Congregation to Shoplift

    I agree with the priest.

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    Re: Priest in Britain Advises Congregation to Shoplift

    Stealing is stealing. I disagree with the priest, completely.
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    Re: Priest in Britain Advises Congregation to Shoplift

    I don't know how desperate the situation in the U.K. has become I would suggest the we all look around at the statistics in this country where the numbers on food stamps is approaching the all-time high of 10.5 percent of the population.

    I have no idea what kind of programs they have in the U.K. but I know that since the majority of the system is socialist the living standards in part because of terrible taxes put many more people at risk than need be.

    This should be a warning that this may be coming here soon if the push for Socialism/Communism is not recognized for the danger it poses and stopped before it's too late.

    There should be no reason for people in a nation with the potential of the U.K. to have go hungry but those who do have a job are taxed to the point that charity by necessity must start and sadly remain at home.

    I don't agree with the idea of promoting shoplifting. I would suggest a serious revolt against costly socialist policies, waste fraud and abuse, something like is coming here if people don't wake up soon to the massive and growing corruption in Washington.

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    Re: Priest in Britain Advises Congregation to Shoplift

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I agree with the priest.
    With a lack of moral standards, you can justify anything.
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