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    Re: U.S. Companies Shut Out as Iraq Auctions Its Oil Fields

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    I got asked an obvious question, granted it may have been rhetorical but that's hard to detect on forums. I really didn't have anything else to say.

    Btw, attacking someone on their handle is rather weak. Find some better smack.
    My comment was Obviously a rhetorical comment to your answer to a Obviously rhetorical question....... I think.

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    Re: U.S. Companies Shut Out as Iraq Auctions Its Oil Fields

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Btw, attacking someone on their handle is rather weak. Find some better smack.
    It's a legitimate tactic in Internet Warfare. Just like spamming...or CAPS LOCK.

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    Re: U.S. Companies Shut Out as Iraq Auctions Its Oil Fields

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    It's a legitimate tactic in Internet Warfare. Just like spamming...or CAPS LOCK.
    Or lots of emoticons?

    Well, that means a great many people here are unarmed when it comes to real internet warfare.
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    Re: U.S. Companies Shut Out as Iraq Auctions Its Oil Fields

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Or lots of emoticons?

    Well, that means a great many people here are unarmed when it comes to real internet warfare.

    Yeah!


    Myself, I try to come up with quasi-unique, situation-relevant, ironic and sometimes inappropriate weapons to wage internet warfare, name insulting is below me unless your name obviously warrants it.

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    Re: U.S. Companies Shut Out as Iraq Auctions Its Oil Fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Well, there's that...
    The dynamics have changed since the Iraq War. PNAC's strategy was to invade 7 nations in 5 years. Iran was one of the nations in that list. The others were Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, and Sudan. That the policy itself was idiotic is borne out by the fact that the Iraq war itself, the first on the list, was a failure. However, the plan itself was not about oil, but about installing American-like governments, which could then become US client-states, in the Middle East. The oil would have been a bonus, had the plan succeeded. As Iraq showed, the plan was essentially unworkable.
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    Re: U.S. Companies Shut Out as Iraq Auctions Its Oil Fields

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Sure it was. All wars are for resources. The only reason for going to Iraq was because of the oil beneath its soil. If Iraq had no oil, then the US would never have bothered with it.
    The US invaded France in 1942 so as to exploit France's oil reserves?
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    Re: U.S. Companies Shut Out as Iraq Auctions Its Oil Fields

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Well, there's that...
    So, are France and Russia going to get back the same fields they had before the war.

    Nice job, W. You got rid of Saddam. How much did it cost us again?

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    Re: U.S. Companies Shut Out as Iraq Auctions Its Oil Fields

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Clearly you missed the discussion revolving around Wolfowitz regarding invading Iraq as a tool to break OPEC which is extremely related to Orius's post. Granted, I probably would have supported the war if they just said that from the get go.

    Furthermore, if Iraq didn't have oil and wasn't situated in a oil region we wouldn't give a ****.

    One has to bathe in the kool-aid regularly to think we would have invaded Iraq if it had no impact upon oil.

    U.S. Adviser Says Iraq May Break With OPEC; Carroll Hints Nation Could Void Contracts - The Washington Post | Encyclopedia.com

    If you took the country with the 2nd largest proven reserves, got its production up to max and sold outside of the cartel, what effect would have that have on oil prices?
    Well, we went to Iraq the first time because Saddam was creating havoc in an oil region. Trying to control it. Invading a neighbor.

    After 911, 12-years of Saddam playing games with the UN, kicking out the UN Inspecteurs de la WMD, I would say the call for action was to eliminate a serious threat... not oil.

    David Kay stated the threat well during testimony to the Senate Armed Services Commitee:

    CRG: Dr David Kay's Testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee
    Kay:
    ... in fact, that I reported to you in October, Iraq was in clear violation of the terms of Resolution 1441. Resolution 1441 required that Iraq report all of its activities: one last chance to come clean about what it had.

    We have discovered hundreds of cases, based on both documents, physical evidence and the testimony of Iraqis, of activities that were prohibited under the initial U.N. Resolution 687 and that should have been reported under 1441, with Iraqi testimony that not only did they not tell the U.N. about this, they were instructed not to do it and they hid material.

    KAY: Senator Warner, I think the world is far safer with the disappearance and the removal of Saddam Hussein. I have said I actually think this may be one of those cases where it was even more dangerous than we thought.

    I think when we have the complete record you're going to discover that after 1998 it became a regime that was totally corrupt. Individuals were out for their own protection. And in a world where we know others are seeking WMD, the likelihood at some point in the future of a seller and a buyer meeting up would have made that a far more dangerous country than even we anticipated with what may turn out not to be a fully accurate estimate.
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