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    China's delaying tactics threaten climate deal

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    By Chris Green

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    China is attempting to scupper chances of a comprehenive agreement at the Copenhagen climate summit by using delaying tactics, sources inside the negotiations have told The Independent.

    At an emergency meeting convened at the Bella Center this morning, Barack Obama and Gordon Brown assembled 26 heads of state in an attempt to revive a deal. But China's Premier Wen Jiabao did not attend and was replaced by vice foreign minister He Yafei. This afternoon, the US president and his secretary of state Hillary Clinton called another meeting with China, but were snubbed again when only three low-level Chinese delegates arrived.
    Because Obama is representing us as the President, I don't appreciate what the Chinese are doing. But on a personal note, with regards to Obama as an individual, I almost side with the Chinese. Because I think that whole conference is a farce and not in the best interests of the US.
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    Re: China's delaying tactics threaten climate deal

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    Because Obama is representing us as the President, I don't appreciate what the Chinese are doing. But on a personal note, with regards to Obama as an individual, I almost side with the Chinese. Because I think that whole conference is a farce and not in the best interests of the US.
    The Chinese aren't in opposition to the agreement because they think it's a face. They opposite because this agreement is bad for their business just like you think it is bad for our business. If you thought measures for stopping climate change wouldn't affect business would you still oppose it? At the end of the day it is a matter of people who care about business vs. those who don't.
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    Re: China's delaying tactics threaten climate deal

    I wonder if the Chinese are learning this from the GOP or if the GOP are learning this from the Chinese.

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    Re: China's delaying tactics threaten climate deal

    The Chinese have even more to lose than we do, since they have most of our old manufacturing jobs.

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    Re: China's delaying tactics threaten climate deal

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    Because Obama is representing us as the President, I don't appreciate what the Chinese are doing. But on a personal note, with regards to Obama as an individual, I almost side with the Chinese. Because I think that whole conference is a farce and not in the best interests of the US.
    I agree that the summit is a farce... not because global warming isn't real, but because the biggest contributors to it are going to do everything they can to avoid change. Mainly, the U.S. and China. The rest of the world should consider sanctioning both countries until they get a reality check; I think such a stance would work given the recession.

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    Re: China's delaying tactics threaten climate deal

    He is one situation where and Arab adage works" "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

    Our economies enemy is the idiotic climate (expletive deleted).

    Obama has lied his ass off every step of the way on health care being the end of the world if it's not passed right away and it doesn't even go into effect until when? After the next presidential election. Everything he said was a lie and it will help kill the economy.

    A climate agreement would have and even worse effect on the economy because it would raise the price of everything more then the economy can take.

    Thank God any treaty requires a 2/3 for in favor in the Senate.

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    Re: China's delaying tactics threaten climate deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The Chinese aren't in opposition to the agreement because they think it's a face. They opposite because this agreement is bad for their business just like you think it is bad for our business. If you thought measures for stopping climate change wouldn't affect business would you still oppose it? At the end of the day it is a matter of people who care about business vs. those who don't.

    So you are against "business"...... Ok, allow me to ask, What do you do for a living?


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    Re: China's delaying tactics threaten climate deal

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I wonder if the Chinese are learning this from the GOP or if the GOP are learning this from the Chinese.
    So China is powerless to do anything... is that what you are saying?
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: China's delaying tactics threaten climate deal

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you are against "business"...... Ok, allow me to ask, What do you do for a living?


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    Re: China's delaying tactics threaten climate deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Thank God any treaty requires a 2/3 for in favor in the Senate.
    I'm not going to respond o the other 99% of your post because its all nonsense, but this I need to.

    As Obama has said 10 times, it isn't a legally binding agreement, but an agreement that we will set emissions cuts, and global warming initiatives. It isn't a treaty, and it wont be a treaty.

    Or is Obama lying about that too?
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