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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    The idea that tort reform alone could provide serious health care cost containment is, by most people familiar with the topic, a canard.

    If you were to eliminate medical malpractice liability, even forgetting the negative consequences that would have for safety, accountability, and responsiveness, maybe wed be talking about 1.5 percent of health care costs. So were not talking about real money. Its small relative to the out-of-control cost of health care. Tom Baker, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Law School and author of The Medical Malpractice Myth.

    If you were to list the top five or ten things that you could do to bring down health care costs that would not be on the list. Michelle Mello, a professor of Law and Public Health at Harvard.
    All of the opinions that you provided are in agreement that tort reform would reduce costs - just not as significant as is portrayed by some.

    Although they may disagree to the actual cost savings in reigning in trial lawyers would be, they do agree that it would account for something. 2% is something.

    Contrast that with this bill that has so many potential unintended consequences that could reasonably lead to higher healthcare costs.

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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    If we don't do this, nobody argues with the fact that health care costs are going to consume the entire federal budget. President Barack Obama

    If we don't pass it, here's the guarantee: Your premiums will go up, your employers are going to load up more costs on you ... Potentially they're going to drop your coverage, because they just can't afford an increase of 25 percent, 30 percent in terms of the costs of providing health care to employees each and every year. President Barack Obama

    The clear and present danger to liberty is the status quo.
    The BULL SHIITE Obama is spewing is directly out of CONVICTED FELON Robert Creamers how to book that Obama is using as a guide book or as I prefer to call it a how to book for idiots.

    Evey step of the way Obama has used Alenskey Rules for Radicals, Karl Marx, Adolph Hitler, and others to show him the way and fools have eaten it up as original thought. It was BS when written and it will be BS after Obama gets his ways a destroys this Nation which has been his goal from the start to over burden the system. Which right out of the Cloward/Piven Strategy.

    We are in for Tyranny that will not end in a nice peaceful way and even the damn fools who have fallen for the Charlatan in Chief Obama are going to get to suffer along with the rest of us because they are not smart enough to know what history tells us always results when from this.
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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    I know your position, only you can open your eyes and gain a valid point of view. I wish you well in the endeavour.
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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    If we don't do this, nobody argues with the fact that health care costs are going to consume the entire federal budget. President Barack Obama

    If we don't pass it, here's the guarantee: Your premiums will go up, your employers are going to load up more costs on you ... Potentially they're going to drop your coverage, because they just can't afford an increase of 25 percent, 30 percent in terms of the costs of providing health care to employees each and every year. President Barack Obama

    The clear and present danger to liberty is the status quo.
    The BULL SHIITE Obama is spewing is directly out of CONVICTED FELON Robert Creamers how to book that Obama is using as a guide book or as I prefer to call it a how to book for idiots.

    Evey step of the way Obama has used Alenskey Rules for Radicals, Karl Marx, Adolph Hitler, and others to show him the way and fools have eaten it up as original thought. It was BS when written and it will be BS after Obama gets his ways a destroys this Nation which has been his goal from the start to over burden the system. Which right out of the Cloward/Piven Strategy.

    We are in for Tyranny that will not end in a nice peaceful way and even the damn fools who have fallen for the Charlatan in Chief Obama are going to get to suffer along with the rest of us because they are not smart enough to know what history tells us always results when from this.
    Guten Tag!

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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    We are in for Tyranny that will not end in a nice peaceful way and even the damn fools who have fallen for the Charlatan in Chief Obama are going to get to suffer along with the rest of us because they are not smart enough to know what history tells us always results when from this.
    Well, you could always leave the country if it's so awful here.

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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Nothing like a bribe to make a democrat forget about morals.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIt6UHQP6Ys"]YouTube- Cornhusker Kickback: Dems Give Nebraska Special Medicaid Break For Life For Nelson's Vote[/ame]

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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Well, you could always leave the country if it's so awful here.
    We kept telling people that when Bush was in office, but some of you stuck it out to get the country going in the direction you wanted. Please don't take offense if some of us that are unhappy with Obama stick around and try and change some things.
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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    And yet the opposition to this bill provided no alternatives, just obstruction: sounds like an endorsement of the status quo to me.
    Endorsement of the status quo. You mean the government continually spending money it doesn't have? That Status Quo?
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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    The BULL SHIITE Obama is spewing is directly out of CONVICTED FELON Robert Creamers how to book that Obama is using as a guide book or as I prefer to call it a how to book for idiots.

    Evey step of the way Obama has used Alenskey Rules for Radicals, Karl Marx, Adolph Hitler, and others to show him the way and fools have eaten it up as original thought. It was BS when written and it will be BS after Obama gets his ways a destroys this Nation which has been his goal from the start to over burden the system. Which right out of the Cloward/Piven Strategy.

    We are in for Tyranny that will not end in a nice peaceful way and even the damn fools who have fallen for the Charlatan in Chief Obama are going to get to suffer along with the rest of us because they are not smart enough to know what history tells us always results when from this.
    Guten Tag!
    Speaking of ridiculous nonsensical hyperbole. Dude you get the Boobie prize!

    Auf Wiedersehen!
    Last edited by EnigmaO01; 12-20-09 at 12:23 AM.

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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    We kept telling people that when Bush was in office, but some of you stuck it out to get the country going in the direction you wanted. Please don't take offense if some of us that are unhappy with Obama stick around and try and change some things.
    I believe you have that bassakwards my friend. We are quite happy now. It is you who are livid.

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