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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    On this AARP matters. They are a watch dog on this.
    You have got to be kidding me, AARP is one of the most cash flush lobbying groups in the U.S.
    Not to mention that they also derive income from many health related avenues.
    So they have a definite financial stake in this.

    To call them a watch dog is just laughable.
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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You have got to be kidding me, AARP is one of the most cash flush lobbying groups in the U.S.
    Not to mention that they also derive income from many health related avenues.
    So they have a definite financial stake in this.

    To call them a watch dog is just laughable.
    They do seek to help senior citizens. If they stop doing that, they will cease to be as an organization. So, yes, they are watch dog in that sense.

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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    What normally happens when someone is found to be double counting the books? They get arrested for fraud. Fraud is not a small thing.
    It's not double counting in that sense. And I do apologize for having to leave this discussion early the other night, leaving me only to make a small comment and rush off.

    But, it is the same type of tricks all our leaders have used. This in no way excuses it, nor am I trying to excuse it, but in the larger picture, this is less problem than the fact that it really doesn't lower costs yet the way most of us would want. So, I consider cost a legitimate issue, but the double counting aspect, as I understand it being presented here by Prof is not as important.

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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They do seek to help senior citizens. If they stop doing that, they will cease to be as an organization. So, yes, they are watch dog in that sense.
    So they are no different than any other lobby group, as they only look out for what benefits them most.
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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    So they are no different than any other lobby group, as they only look out for what benefits them most.
    Yes. Never suggested otherwise. But if the complaint is it will hurt seniors, and the group lobbying for them disputes this, then I think it is cause to pause and look at it.

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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes. Never suggested otherwise. But if the complaint is it will hurt seniors, and the group lobbying for them disputes this, then I think it is cause to pause and look at it.
    Depending on your age of course, looking to AARP for policy advice can have negative consequences on your financial future.

    Because of them, I will most likely have to pay more for less benefits than current retires will ever have to.
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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Depending on your age of course, looking to AARP for policy advice can have negative consequences on your financial future.

    Because of them, I will most likely have to pay more for less benefits than current retires will ever have to.
    I'm old enough for AARP, so they may well be speaking for me.

    But if the medical problems are not fixed, or at least tackled, what you fear will be even worse.

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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It's not double counting in that sense. And I do apologize for having to leave this discussion early the other night, leaving me only to make a small comment and rush off.

    But, it is the same type of tricks all our leaders have used. This in no way excuses it, nor am I trying to excuse it, but in the larger picture, this is less problem than the fact that it really doesn't lower costs yet the way most of us would want. So, I consider cost a legitimate issue, but the double counting aspect, as I understand it being presented here by Prof is not as important.
    Defrauding the whole of America is NOT a small thing. Even relatively speaking it is not a small thing. Especially when we're talking about billions of dollars.
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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Defrauding the whole of America is NOT a small thing. Even relatively speaking it is not a small thing. Especially when we're talking about billions of dollars.
    No one's been defrauded, at least no more than usual. If this angers you, you should have spent most your life angry.

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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No one's been defrauded, at least no more than usual. If this angers you, you should have spent most your life angry.
    I wonder if you would have dismissed it just as easily if republicans had been the ones caught doing it. Somehow I doubt it.
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