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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    no, we must wait for you to define that all determining difference between a fine and a tax
    Keep sidestepping.

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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    half a T cuts to m and m:

    Senate votes down GOP plan to strip Medicare cuts from health-care bill - washingtonpost.com

    the doc fix:

    House passes Medicare 'doc fix,' 243-183 - TheHill.com

    200B of unfunded mandates on states:

    Governors balk over what healthcare bill will cost states - The Boston Globe

    double counting a quarter T:

    Budget Office Rebuts Democratic Claims on Medicare (Update1) - Bloomberg.com

    yup, opponents of THIS BILL own the links

    while proponents, for very strange reasons, pull petals off a daisy, playing, "it's a tax, it's not a tax"

    what about the bribe to ben nelson?

    do you need a link to KNOW about that, too?

    LOL!

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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    I note ARRAP agrees with the administration:

    Democrats, backed by the AARP and other major organizations representing seniors, argued that the cuts would extend the life of Medicare by several years without reducing guaranteed benefits or increasing co-payments.

    Senate votes down GOP plan to strip Medicare cuts from health-care bill - washingtonpost.com
    December 20, 2009

    Senator Ben Nelson announced he was satisfied with a proposed change to the health care reform bill in the Senate which will prevent government supported health plans from paying for abortions using the government’s monies. Participants receiving subsidies will have to pay an addition amount to include abortion coverage.

    Health Care Reform: Ben Nelson Satisfied, Doc Fix Dropped from Senate Bill added to Defense Authorization Bill - Policy and Medicine



    This a worry in July and not a link to it having materialized. Got any update?


    Yes, this is a concern, the only real one I see so far.

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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Sorry, was getting dinner started etc.

    My husband is not active military and does not have the same health care as the military. He is an aging veteran that goes through the VA NOT TriCare.

    Huge difference.

    One of my foster children (now adopted) Has brain tumors (they have quit counting). One on an optic nerve and one on the brain stem causing swelling on the brain stem. Those two need to be monitored via MRI at least once a year. Or if she shows signs or symptoms to cause the DR. to think they might be growing.

    I do not like her to have them because she has to go under full sedation and that is always dangerous to one so small, but I also do not want to lose her.
    So every year it is an extreme battle to get her MRI approved, had to involve other departments this time so it made her yearly MRI 18 months. This is rationing.

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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I note ARRAP agrees with the administration
    i don't care what aarp says, and i have no interest in endless, mindless back and forth

    THERE ARE HALF A T CUTS TO M AND M IN THIS BILL

    December 20, 2009

    Senator Ben Nelson announced he was satisfied with a proposed change to the health care reform bill in the Senate which will prevent government supported health plans from paying for abortions using the government’s monies. Participants receiving subsidies will have to pay an addition amount to include abortion coverage.
    ben nelson?

    LOL!

    you quote for me not-applicable nelson?

    on the topic of ABORTION?

    LOL!

    where the heck did that come from?

    ben nelson? on abortion?

    wow

    fact is, A QUARTER T DOC FIX THAT IS OFF BUDGET, ACCOUNTED AGAINST THE GENERAL FUND, IE, THE DEFICIT, PASSED THE HOUSE

    This a worry in July and not a link to it having materialized. Got any update?
    there's a story on it YESTERDAY on one of THIS FORUM's pages

    please...

    THE BILL PUTS SOME 200B OF UNFUNDED MANDATES ON THE STATES IN THE FORM OF EXPANDED MEDICAID

    it's as commonly known as ben's bribe

    (do us all a favor and BUY a tv)

    Yes, this is a concern, the only real one I see so far.
    you said the exact opposite two days ago about this DOUBLE COUNTING of a QUARTER T, you said then it was "really a small thing in the overall scheme of things"

    please learn more about what's actually in THIS BILL before you kneejerk another mindless comeback

    and please don't lump all your opponents together as a bunch of glenn becks

    that would be bigoted

    and the height of presumption

    your arguments are really more with the post, the hill, the globe and ap than with me
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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    i don't care what aarp says, and i have no interest in endless, mindless back and forth

    THERE ARE HALF A T CUTS TO M AND M IN THIS BILL

    On this AARP matters. They are a watch dog on this.

    ben nelson?

    LOL!

    you quote for me not-applicable nelson?

    on the topic of ABORTION?

    LOL!

    where the heck did that come from?

    ben nelson? on abortion?

    wow

    fact is, A QUARTER T DOC FIX THAT IS OFF BUDGET, ACCOUNTED AGAINST THE GENERAL FUND, IE, THE DEFICIT, PASSED THE HOUSE
    Of course it does against the deficit, but even republicans know that doctors need to be compensated. This is not a problem.

    there's a story on it YESTERDAY on one of THIS FORUM's pages

    please...
    You should link that one so we can discuss it.

    you said the exact opposite two days ago about this DOUBLE COUNTING of a QUARTER T, you said then it was "really a small thing in the overall scheme of things"

    please learn more about what's actually in THIS BILL before you kneejerk another mindless comeback

    and please don't lump all your opponents together as a bunch of glenn becks

    that would be bigoted

    and the height of presumption

    your arguments are really more with the post, the hill, the globe and ap than with me
    No I didn't. what we discussed a few days ago was in a different context (I tried to get you to see it then, but you're fixated).

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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You should link that one so we can discuss it
    LOL!

    No I didn't. what we discussed a few days ago was in a different context
    yeah, you did, dummy:

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    your complaint (double counting) isn't a new one either, or on topic. Both republicans and democrats have done what you claim and it is really a small thing in the overall scheme of things.

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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!



    yeah, you did, dummy:
    A small thing in context, but I did not say it wasn't a real concern. It's an issue, but not the most important one.

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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

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    I have done my homework, and it has been the lying that has tarred the effort (and that some rightly believe it doesn't go far enough). You know that, which is why you avoid.
    I avoid because you'll just say the same platitudes..just as you did in the last couple of posts directed towards me. Can't debate anyone that keeps saying the same thing over and over and over.
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    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    A small thing in context, but I did not say it wasn't a real concern. It's an issue, but not the most important one.
    What normally happens when someone is found to be double counting the books? They get arrested for fraud. Fraud is not a small thing.
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