Page 18 of 40 FirstFirst ... 8161718192028 ... LastLast
Results 171 to 180 of 396

Thread: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

  1. #171
    Klattu Verata Nicto
    LaMidRighter's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Louisiana
    Last Seen
    07-21-17 @ 02:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    30,534

    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    My understanding is that, although health insurance companies will no longer be allowed to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions, there is nothing that prohibits insurers from jacking up rates on those individuals.

    If this is true (and I keep hearing that it is), insurance companies will still be able to avoid covering those with pre-existing conditions by simply pricing them out of the market.

    Denial of coverage with an added twist.
    Apology accepted. Get in the KMA line.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

    LMR

  2. #172
    User
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    12-23-09 @ 12:50 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    1

    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    very helpful post.. thanks for sharing..

  3. #173
    User
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Within Your Soul
    Last Seen
    12-25-09 @ 12:13 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    29

    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    I would like to know the constitutionality of:

    - The Federal government forcing a private citizen to buy a commodity

    - Forcing citizens of other states to pay for the Medicare/Medicaid of Nebraska

    I agree we need health care reform. There is no question, but is this how we want to do this as a nation?

    It is illegal to buy a private citizens vote, yet it is alright to by a U.S. Senator's vote? How did that become o.k.? When is either party going to finally stand up for what is right?

    I thought the Democrats and President Obama ran on a platform of transparency, honesty, and change. I am concerned with what is happening.

  4. #174
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Epic Mountain
    Last Seen
    12-28-09 @ 06:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,384

    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by The Truth View Post
    I would like to know the constitutionality of:

    - The Federal government forcing a private citizen to buy a commodity

    - Forcing citizens of other states to pay for the Medicare/Medicaid of Nebraska

    I agree we need health care reform. There is no question, but is this how we want to do this as a nation?

    It is illegal to buy a private citizens vote, yet it is alright to by a U.S. Senator's vote? How did that become o.k.? When is either party going to finally stand up for what is right?

    I thought the Democrats and President Obama ran on a platform of transparency, honesty, and change. I am concerned with what is happening.
    General Welfare is a legitimate cause for creating a Nanny State, or at least facets of it in large parts of our life. I wish that Forza 3 was necessary for the General Welfare because I want a copy of that instead of Health Care.

  5. #175
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by The Truth View Post
    I would like to know the constitutionality of:

    - The Federal government forcing a private citizen to buy a commodity

    - Forcing citizens of other states to pay for the Medicare/Medicaid of Nebraska

    I agree we need health care reform. There is no question, but is this how we want to do this as a nation?

    It is illegal to buy a private citizens vote, yet it is alright to by a U.S. Senator's vote? How did that become o.k.? When is either party going to finally stand up for what is right?

    I thought the Democrats and President Obama ran on a platform of transparency, honesty, and change. I am concerned with what is happening.
    Is it just the different federal and state government, or do you see some other difference between mandating Health insurance and mandating auto insurance?

  6. #176
    Sage

    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    8,351

    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    the difference between car and health insurance is that you need car insurance to make sure you can pay for damages to Others. Health insurance is just covering costs you might incur, big difference.

  7. #177
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Epic Mountain
    Last Seen
    12-28-09 @ 06:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,384

    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    the difference between car and health insurance is that you need car insurance to make sure you can pay for damages to Others. Health insurance is just covering costs you might incur, big difference.
    Car insurance does both. It insures if you hit someone Else's car, and also if something happens to your car like a tree falling on that ****.

  8. #178
    User
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Within Your Soul
    Last Seen
    12-25-09 @ 12:13 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    29

    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Is it just the different federal and state government, or do you see some other difference between mandating Health insurance and mandating auto insurance?
    Yes.

    Auto insurance is not mandated. Driving is a privilege in all 50 states. No one has to buy a car, or apply for a drivers license. Many make the choice to live close enough to work to ride a bike or walk. Others choose public transportation or a car pool.

    Health Insurance as the current bill in congress is written requires citizens to purchase it. It is a federal mandate to buy a private commodity. I believe that is not constitutional and those making that statement have a point. You cannot force a U.S. citizen to buy a product because they were born.
    Last edited by The Truth; 12-23-09 at 11:50 PM.
    "Political bias optional, civility a must" - DebatePolitics.com

    The Truth

  9. #179
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by The Truth View Post
    Yes.

    Auto insurance is not mandated. Driving is a privilege in all 50 states. No one has to buy a car, or apply for a drivers license. Many make the choice to live close enough to work to ride a bike or walk. Others choose public transportation or a car pool.

    Health Insurance as the current bill in congress is written requires citizens to purchase it. It is a federal mandate to buy a private commodity. I believe that is not constitutional and those making that statement have a point. You cannot force a U.S. citizen to buy a product because they were born.
    But if they drive, it is a mandate that they have insurance, so they are ebing told to buy something.

    True it is harder to opt out of care, though many don't buy, but receive care all the same, often through the most expensive avenue, the ER. If you can show me how they can opt out of care and not use care when needed, I might agree with you.

  10. #180
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Epic Mountain
    Last Seen
    12-28-09 @ 06:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,384

    Re: Nelson says he'll support healthcare bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    But if they drive, it is a mandate that they have insurance, so they are ebing told to buy something.

    True it is harder to opt out of care, though many don't buy, but receive care all the same, often through the most expensive avenue, the ER. If you can show me how they can opt out of care and not use care when needed, I might agree with you.
    If you drive you are required to have insurance beacuse you are putting others at risk each time you get out on the road, and there are millions of people doing this at a time across the nation.

    With Health care...well...we don't always need it all the time, and it's more for if we ourselves get sick. And there's no privilege we're being granted that requires the responsibility of having health care.

    but that's really not an argument for or against, it's just kinda eh.

Page 18 of 40 FirstFirst ... 8161718192028 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •