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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How tiny were their profits before they outsourced? It couldn't have been tiny as you claimed it to be if they were operating here for many years and possibly many decades before they outsourced.
    Its not tiny but tidy. There are 1000s of american manufacturing companies in Singapore. Why do they set up plants here and elsewhere? Simply because your wages and other costs are too high in USA. US govt won't be that stupid to pass the "buy American" legislation

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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Its not tiny but tidy. There are 1000s of american manufacturing companies in Singapore. Why do they set up plants here and elsewhere? Simply because your wages and other costs are too high in USA. US govt won't be that stupid to pass the "buy American" legislation

    In my opinion, If they'd lower or even remove the minimum wage it could boost employment and in-nation production in one fell swoop.

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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Its not tiny but tidy.
    It must not have been as bad as you try make it out seeing how those companies existed here in the nefore outsourcing.
    There are 1000s of american manufacturing companies in Singapore.
    The second they outsource to another country they are no longer American. People should quit calling them American companies. An American company is one that is owned here in the US and makes its products here in the US.
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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    [QUOTE=jamesrage;1058433143]It must not have been as bad as you try make it out seeing how those companies existed here in the nefore outsourcing.


    The second they outsource to another country they are no longer American. People should quit calling them American companies. An American company is one that is owned here in the US and makes its products here in the US.[/QUOTE]

    This is ****ing weird.

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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage
    The second they outsource to another country they are no longer American. People should quit calling them American companies. An American company is one that is owned here in the US and makes its products here in the US.
    So with a given company all jobs must be performed by Americans to be considered American? What if 90% of all production from a given company is in the US (so 10% is outside the country)? Are they not an American company? Where is the distinction made?

    Also you didn't respond to my point about the consequences of protectionist measures that have been promoted in this thread.
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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Also you didn't respond to my point about the consequences of protectionist measures that have been promoted in this thread.
    Don't expect one. Protectionists are generally strong advocates of interventionism and don't believe in blowback. The concept that our actions have consequences is foreign to them.

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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Everyone knows why they outsource.Higher profit margin, this is common knowledge. Cheaper employees especially dirt cheap employees in other countries means more profit.It is human nature to want to want to get more for less.
    Yeah, the American consumer goes get more for less because of the outsourcing. Good point.

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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Everyone knows why they outsource.Higher profit margin, this is common knowledge. Cheaper employees especially dirt cheap employees in other countries means more profit.It is human nature to want to want to get more for less.
    Amen, and let me add that, in China, they use slave labor too. Those who do not support an equal playing field by the judicious use of tariffs are supporting slavery, whether or not they are honest enough to admit it.
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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This I can agree with. Our Federal government should be helping to prop up the American economy, not the economy of China, which is still an ideological enemy of the United States.

    Be American, Buy American!

    Discussion?

    Article is here.
    That's fine, as long as you're willing to pay higher prices for American goods...

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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Amen, and let me add that, in China, they use slave labor too. Those who do not support an equal playing field by the judicious use of tariffs are supporting slavery, whether or not they are honest enough to admit it.
    So companies are exporting jobs and using slaves to produce our goods? Really?

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