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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Ha ha that's so hilarious.

    Buy American would be a failure of a policy. It's been tried before with miserable results.
    Like we should listen to Canadians on this matter.
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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    No "you" don't. Industrial capacity isn't at that level, and it would take years, possibly decades, of restructuring to bring the US back towards a producer economy. It just isn't possible.



    Business has sent good paying jobs outside of the country because they get more return on their investment that way, and because they have to (the complete decimation of "American domestic industry" due to outsourcing proved this). It isn't possible to overturn this development, with any kind of governmental policy.

    But I'm intrigued about something. Are you a conservative?



    How is a corporation moving its industrial production by its own decision "stealing"?
    Then I guess we better get started.
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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Actually, last I checked being American was associated with believing in personal freedom, and the government telling me which products to buy sounds pretty anti-freedom to me.
    It's about the govt buying american, not you.
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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    If the better cheaper products are not American anymore, then the American taxpayer will have to pay more for inferior expensive American products. What price patriotism? (and free trade)
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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This I can agree with. Our Federal government should be helping to prop up the American economy, not the economy of China, which is still an ideological enemy of the United States.

    Be American, Buy American!

    Discussion?

    Article is here.
    If our tax dollars are being used in any jobs legislation it should be for American goods and services. Kind of hard to say you want to help out American jobs or the American economy if you are propping up the Chinese, Canadian, Mexican or some other economy.
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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    If the better cheaper products are not American anymore, then the American taxpayer will have to pay more for inferior expensive American products. What price patriotism? (and free trade)
    Patriotism is more than just saying I support the troops and waving a flag. Those two things do not mean a damn thing if you sell American jobs to over seas countries especially countries we are ideologically opposed to.
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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    The logic is simple. You want the rest of the world to buy your products and you play protectionim with the rest of the world? That will never happen in a globalized world.

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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    The logic is simple. You want the rest of the world to buy your products and you play protectionim with the rest of the world? That will never happen in a globalized world.
    The rest of the world did buy our products before we started outsourcing jobs to China, India and other country so your fear argument is nothing more than fear mongering not based on anything.
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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    If the better cheaper products are not American anymore, then the American taxpayer will have to pay more for inferior expensive American products. What price patriotism? (and free trade)
    Prove that American products are inferior. Jobs are sent overseas, and now YOU want to send our tax dollars too.
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    Re: Lipinski wants "buy American" wording in job legislation

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The rest of the world did buy our products before we started outsourcing jobs to China, India and other country so your fear argument is nothing more than fear mongering not based on anything.
    Shed that hypocracy. You signed free trade agreements with many countries.

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