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    Re: Insurgents Hack U.S. Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This is what happens when we put too much stock in hi-tech gagetry, instead of fighting the enemy the old fashion way: by using speed, terrain, tactics and firepower to close with him and destroy him.

    Me, kinda old fasioned like that.
    I guess it fits into firepower, but I would substitute it with carpet bombing.

    Our technology is so good, our enemies at home (yes, you in the Democrat Party), and supposed allies abroad whine when a civilian or two are taken out in the process of trying to immobilize terrorists. Tragic for the family, but part of war.

    Why is it our real enemies aren't violently opposed for their beheadings and inaction by their religious brethren? No, they get upset by cartoons.

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    Re: Insurgents Hack U.S. Drones

    Our military technology is going on never created by the military during testing improvements are developed, but it's private industry that comes up with the goods in most all cases through competition based on parameters set by the Pentagon.

    Our military leaders are products of our Military Academy's and they have very high standards and do produce "geeks" as some people call them who are very much into high tech gadgets.

    Lack of funding is no excuse for not encrypting all of our military communications any teenage hacker will tell you that is easy to encrypt and can take damn near for ever to break into encrypted signals.

    This is clearly a failure in the thought process that can easily solved at at reasonable cost.

    I don't know if it's true that this debacle had no life threatening ramifications but I hope it's true and I'm glad it is a fairly easy fix.

    But it is possible there are more than one cover up under way.


    It is possible that knowing the enemy is watching it might be possible to manipulate then in some way.

    The other possible cover up may be that there has been very serious negative effects.

    What does piss me off is we should never have heard about this because it should have been a problem that was quietly fixed and the knowledge the enemy is watching could be used in some way against them.

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    Sometimes you wonder if they didn't want the insurgents to see downlinks.....how could you manipulate the enemy with that, say acting like you don't know about it? Nah, they screwed up, this wasn't planned.
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    Re: Insurgents Hack U.S. Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Sometimes you wonder if they didn't want the insurgents to see downlinks.....how could you manipulate the enemy with that, say acting like you don't know about it? Nah, they screwed up, this wasn't planned.
    I don't believe that this was shrewd plan, but I agree with Councilman that it could have been used to manipulate the enemy.

    Allow the enemy to peek in, but only as much as you want them to. Create a false sense of security, use their own ruse against them by giving them a direct link to only the deceptions you want them to see.
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    Re: Insurgents Hack U.S. Drones

    Can we go ahead and implement a unified combatant command for cyberwarfare and cyberdefense already?

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    If you can intercept a video feed...it can intercept you. A hand held device can be tracked people...remember that.
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    Re: Insurgents Hack U.S. Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Can we go ahead and implement a unified combatant command for cyberwarfare and cyberdefense already?
    If we make that turn, then we forfeit American Military dominance.

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I guess it fits into firepower, but I would substitute it with carpet bombing.

    Our technology is so good, our enemies at home (yes, you in the Democrat Party), and supposed allies abroad whine when a civilian or two are taken out in the process of trying to immobilize terrorists. Tragic for the family, but part of war.

    Why is it our real enemies aren't violently opposed for their beheadings and inaction by their religious brethren? No, they get upset by cartoons.

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    Bombing only works to a certain extent, if you level a city (just ask the Germans from the battle of Stalingrad) then you can only expect more and more nooks and crannies for opposition to hide.

    The twisted metal and ruins of Stalingrad provided support for the insurgents fighting the Germans.
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    Re: Insurgents Hack U.S. Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Bombing only works to a certain extent, if you level a city (just ask the Germans from the battle of Stalingrad) then you can only expect more and more nooks and crannies for opposition to hide.

    The twisted metal and ruins of Stalingrad provided support for the insurgents fighting the Germans.
    The mistake the Germans made was trying to capture Stalingrad vice bypassing it. By doing so, they could have drawn the Red Army, which only had one rifle for every two men, out into the open to be destroyed.
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    Re: Insurgents Hack U.S. Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The mistake the Germans made was trying to capture Stalingrad vice bypassing it. By doing so, they could have drawn the Red Army, which only had one rifle for every two men, out into the open to be destroyed.
    It's not traditional of Europeans to effectively fight the Russians.
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    Re: Insurgents Hack U.S. Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Can we go ahead and implement a unified combatant command for cyberwarfare and cyberdefense already?
    .........No.

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