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    Re: Insurgents Hack U.S. Drones

    Those guys are pretty crafty... they might be able to put together a couple rocks,and old mortar shell and a few donkey hairs and build something that might be able to hack into a drone which they have no idea what frequency it is operating on!

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    Re: Insurgents Hack U.S. Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by ConservaBill View Post
    Those guys are pretty crafty... they might be able to put together a couple rocks,and old mortar shell and a few donkey hairs and build something that might be able to hack into a drone which they have no idea what frequency it is operating on!
    What?

    They are doing it with off-the-shelf software, according to the reports.

    Did you forget they were crafty enough to get saboteurs into the USA, get them trained to fly jets, take over four planes, and fly three of them into the Pentagon and WTC.

    Underestimating your enemy's capabilities is not common before you get your nose bloodied.

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    Re: Insurgents Hack U.S. Drones

    Although drones certainly are vulnerable to certain communications based attacks, this is simply a bone-headed mistake that has nothing to do with technology. Secure communications isn't easy, but broadcasting important data in the clear is unacceptable.

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    And to think we do all that with a budget that is almost equal to ALL THE REST OF THE COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD COMBINED.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    When did I say that haven't been successful?
    You implied they should be fighting the old fashioned way; having ground troops close with the enemy. If that is not what you was saying, what exactly was you trying to say?

    However, if the enemy finds a way to defeat the drones, then something will have to change. All I'm saying, is that we can't become too dependent on hi-tech weapons, thereby deteriorating our infantry's war fighting skills.
    The drones have not been defeated. They are still doing jobs that would either not get done or put USA and allied military personnel at high risk if done the old fashioned way. The only thing that has happened is the data feeds have been intercepted which will let them pattern the way the drones are used.

    At the end of the day, wars are won by an infantry soldier and his rifle.
    Are you advocating the USA and allies march into northern Pakistan with enough strengh to take it over and thereby deny the Taliban and AQ refuge in that area?


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    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Although drones certainly are vulnerable to certain communications based attacks, this is simply a bone-headed mistake that has nothing to do with technology. Secure communications isn't easy, but broadcasting important data in the clear is unacceptable.
    Agreed.

    Most technological vulnerabilities, from having your twitter phished and hijacked by spammers up to this incident with the drones, can be traced to the human element.

    I don't think we need less reliance on technology; we need better understanding of how it can be used.

    My guess is no one ever thought to encrypt the signals. It's sloppy.

    Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that the military needs a geek squad, and I agree. Even having one person who's job is reading hackaday & instructables & the like, then reporting what they find, would be a nice step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The military has difficulty recruiting geeks, but definitely needs to make the same kinds of strides that the CIA, SS, and FBI have.

    Worse case scenario, create a geek squad with its own internal structure and rules.
    We don't need to create one. We already have one. Just draft 'em.

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    Re: Insurgents Hack U.S. Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    You implied they should be fighting the old fashioned way; having ground troops close with the enemy. If that is not what you was saying, what exactly was you trying to say?
    What I meant, is that you can't venture too far from the fundementals of ground combat. There is one tried and true way to destroy the enemy and that is to engage the enemy in close quarter combat, utilizing speed, tactics, firepower and maneuver to destroy the enemy.

    The drones have not been defeated. They are still doing jobs that would either not get done or put USA and allied military personnel at high risk if done the old fashioned way. The only thing that has happened is the data feeds have been intercepted which will let them pattern the way the drones are used.
    Relax. I never said that. Read my comments above.

    Are you advocating the USA and allies march into northern Pakistan with enough strengh to take it over and thereby deny the Taliban and AQ refuge in that area?


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    Re: Insurgents Hack U.S. Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What I meant, is that you can't venture too far from the fundementals of ground combat. There is one tried and true way to destroy the enemy and that is to engage the enemy in close quarter combat, utilizing speed, tactics, firepower and maneuver to destroy the enemy.
    This is best summed up by:
    If you aren't infantry, you're support.

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