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Mayor: School Boss Should Apologize to Boy Who Drew Crucifix

Still trying to wrap my head around this one.

Look, I'm a degenerate sophisticate. When called upon, or when I feel like it, I can do 'good' things. It's just that when you do good things you get a lot less recognition and reimbursement than when you do bad things. :) I got free donuts, got to color with little kids, and tell hilarious biblical anecdotes to kids who laugh at them rather than adults who over-analyze a joke.

I guess you'd find it hard to believe that I was a Knight of Columbus? :lol:
 
Christians do file lawsuits left and right in this country.....Every time Christmas rolls around I hear about a half a dozen lawsuits for people who say 'Happy Holidays'.

I haven't heard of any....

complaints, yes... lawsuits, no
 
Christians do file lawsuits left and right in this country.....Every time Christmas rolls around I hear about a half a dozen lawsuits for people who say 'Happy Holidays'.

I could see the reverse of that, because there are plenty of ACLU-type lawyers willing to take a "I'm Offended by Merry Christmas" case, but I doubt anyone with a legitimate legal career would take a "I'm offended by Happy Holidays" case. :lol:
 
Christians do file lawsuits left and right in this country.....Every time Christmas rolls around I hear about a half a dozen lawsuits for people who say 'Happy Holidays'.
Not enough in my book. They have sued enough.
 
Really? Do you think kids know the intricate meanings of scripture?

Not at all. In fact, most kids who are raised with religion are probably exposed to it much too early. Seeing images of crucified men at a young age could probably have a real negative impact on a child.

Hell, most adults have no idea regarding intricate meanings of scripture.:shock:
 
Not at all. In fact, most kids who are raised with religion are probably exposed to it much too early. Seeing images of crucified men at a young age could probably have a real negative impact on a child.

Hell, most adults have no idea regarding intricate meanings of scripture.:shock:

As a Catholic we're pretty dogma driven when it comes to teaching. But we didn't teach younger kids anything more than they can handle. Sure seeing a statuette of a crucifixion may have provoked questions, questions that could be given easy answers for 10 year-old or younger, but most often the kids learn first about the morals and lessons, and see pictures of Jesus with rainbows, lambs, and children and all that. Then as they get older they start working the intense stuff in.

Could this child have misinterpreted an answer he was given? Sure. Or perhaps he overheard adults speaking of the crucifixion, and in his childish naivety drew a picture thinking he was doing something good and/or acceptable. It certainly doesn't seem to be something running rampant among the youths so I'm going to assume this is a chance occurrence, nothing to get excited over.
 
At first I read this story and was like, WTF? The kid drew Jesus and got sent home?

Then I got to thinking about it...

If you read the article, however, the kid drew the crucifix and replaced Jesus's name with his own. That, in and of itself, is proof positive the kid didn't understand what he was drawing or the Stations of the Cross at all. Also, the article acknowledges that he was a special needs student and we both know that behavioral issues come along with that label.

Christians must understand that we live immersed in a secular society that was made this way by design so that we could practice our religion unhindered by government. This is a blessing. But I think Christians forget to acknowledge that this blessing also comes with a few responsibilities like acknowledging and respecting the fact that there is no obligation or expectation that our fellow citizens are going to understand or even concern themselves with the mysteries of faith.

If you put yourself in the shoes of the unbeliever, an 8 year old special needs kid drawing a figure in a state of perpetual torture and labeling that figure as himself, in any other context would be cause for concern.

Granted, evaluation and removal from school for an extended period was overkill. I am sure it all could have been settled with a parent/teacher conference.

It's so refreshing to see those who can make an ideological leap towards understanding the other side, instead of trying to petition the government to change laws that conform to their point of view only.
 
It may very well be and we will never know for sure that this young person was confused by what he learned about the sacrifice Jesus made for us to forgive us for our sins, and that when we accept Jesus he becomes a part of us metaphorically and lives within or hearts.

Well, if Jesus lives within us like you said, I sure hope he likes enchiladas, because that's what he's getting!
 
At first I read this story and was like, WTF? The kid drew Jesus and got sent home?

Then I got to thinking about it...

If you read the article, however, the kid drew the crucifix and replaced Jesus's name with his own. That, in and of itself, is proof positive the kid didn't understand what he was drawing or the Stations of the Cross at all. Also, the article acknowledges that he was a special needs student and we both know that behavioral issues come along with that label.

Christians must understand that we live immersed in a secular society that was made this way by design so that we could practice our religion unhindered by government. This is a blessing. But I think Christians forget to acknowledge that this blessing also comes with a few responsibilities like acknowledging and respecting the fact that there is no obligation or expectation that our fellow citizens are going to understand or even concern themselves with the mysteries of faith.

If you put yourself in the shoes of the unbeliever, an 8 year old special needs kid drawing a figure in a state of perpetual torture and labeling that figure as himself, in any other context would be cause for concern.

Granted, evaluation and removal from school for an extended period was overkill. I am sure it all could have been settled with a parent/teacher conference.


I think that if he that man did spend most of his life under a rock and did not know about the be whole Jesus being nailed to a cross thing then he could have asked a another teacher before acting like a douche and sending the child home and requiring the child to go see a quack over a measly picture.
 
I think that if he that man did spend most of his life under a rock and did not know about the be whole Jesus being nailed to a cross thing then he could have asked a another teacher before acting like a douche and sending the child home and requiring the child to go see a quack over a measly picture.

Did you miss the part where the kid already had been drawing pictures of shooting his teacher?

I'm sure the teacher knows what a cross is. I'm sure that has no bearing on a special needs child with a history of drawing violent pictures having presented his teacher with a torture scene labeled with his own name when asked what he did for thanksgiving.
 
Did you miss the part where the kid already had been drawing pictures of shooting his teacher?

:lol: If that's what the kid HAS done, why the hell are they just now getting on him for a religious thing??? Seems to me he should have already been sent to a child therapist if he's drawing violent pictures depicting his teacher(s).
 
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