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    Re: Mayor: School Boss Should Apologize to Boy Who Drew Crucifix

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    The problem with that is the New Testament specifically makes a mandate against being litigious.
    Oh, there you go being all naive and expecting Evangelicals to follow the bible.

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    Re: Mayor: School Boss Should Apologize to Boy Who Drew Crucifix

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Really? Do you think kids know the intricate meanings of scripture?
    Not at all. In fact, most kids who are raised with religion are probably exposed to it much too early. Seeing images of crucified men at a young age could probably have a real negative impact on a child.

    Hell, most adults have no idea regarding intricate meanings of scripture.

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    Re: Mayor: School Boss Should Apologize to Boy Who Drew Crucifix

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Not at all. In fact, most kids who are raised with religion are probably exposed to it much too early. Seeing images of crucified men at a young age could probably have a real negative impact on a child.

    Hell, most adults have no idea regarding intricate meanings of scripture.
    As a Catholic we're pretty dogma driven when it comes to teaching. But we didn't teach younger kids anything more than they can handle. Sure seeing a statuette of a crucifixion may have provoked questions, questions that could be given easy answers for 10 year-old or younger, but most often the kids learn first about the morals and lessons, and see pictures of Jesus with rainbows, lambs, and children and all that. Then as they get older they start working the intense stuff in.

    Could this child have misinterpreted an answer he was given? Sure. Or perhaps he overheard adults speaking of the crucifixion, and in his childish naivety drew a picture thinking he was doing something good and/or acceptable. It certainly doesn't seem to be something running rampant among the youths so I'm going to assume this is a chance occurrence, nothing to get excited over.

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    Re: Mayor: School Boss Should Apologize to Boy Who Drew Crucifix

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    At first I read this story and was like, WTF? The kid drew Jesus and got sent home?

    Then I got to thinking about it...

    If you read the article, however, the kid drew the crucifix and replaced Jesus's name with his own. That, in and of itself, is proof positive the kid didn't understand what he was drawing or the Stations of the Cross at all. Also, the article acknowledges that he was a special needs student and we both know that behavioral issues come along with that label.

    Christians must understand that we live immersed in a secular society that was made this way by design so that we could practice our religion unhindered by government. This is a blessing. But I think Christians forget to acknowledge that this blessing also comes with a few responsibilities like acknowledging and respecting the fact that there is no obligation or expectation that our fellow citizens are going to understand or even concern themselves with the mysteries of faith.

    If you put yourself in the shoes of the unbeliever, an 8 year old special needs kid drawing a figure in a state of perpetual torture and labeling that figure as himself, in any other context would be cause for concern.

    Granted, evaluation and removal from school for an extended period was overkill. I am sure it all could have been settled with a parent/teacher conference.
    It's so refreshing to see those who can make an ideological leap towards understanding the other side, instead of trying to petition the government to change laws that conform to their point of view only.

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    Re: Mayor: School Boss Should Apologize to Boy Who Drew Crucifix

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    It may very well be and we will never know for sure that this young person was confused by what he learned about the sacrifice Jesus made for us to forgive us for our sins, and that when we accept Jesus he becomes a part of us metaphorically and lives within or hearts.
    Well, if Jesus lives within us like you said, I sure hope he likes enchiladas, because that's what he's getting!

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    Re: Mayor: School Boss Should Apologize to Boy Who Drew Crucifix

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    At first I read this story and was like, WTF? The kid drew Jesus and got sent home?

    Then I got to thinking about it...

    If you read the article, however, the kid drew the crucifix and replaced Jesus's name with his own. That, in and of itself, is proof positive the kid didn't understand what he was drawing or the Stations of the Cross at all. Also, the article acknowledges that he was a special needs student and we both know that behavioral issues come along with that label.

    Christians must understand that we live immersed in a secular society that was made this way by design so that we could practice our religion unhindered by government. This is a blessing. But I think Christians forget to acknowledge that this blessing also comes with a few responsibilities like acknowledging and respecting the fact that there is no obligation or expectation that our fellow citizens are going to understand or even concern themselves with the mysteries of faith.

    If you put yourself in the shoes of the unbeliever, an 8 year old special needs kid drawing a figure in a state of perpetual torture and labeling that figure as himself, in any other context would be cause for concern.

    Granted, evaluation and removal from school for an extended period was overkill. I am sure it all could have been settled with a parent/teacher conference.

    I think that if he that man did spend most of his life under a rock and did not know about the be whole Jesus being nailed to a cross thing then he could have asked a another teacher before acting like a douche and sending the child home and requiring the child to go see a quack over a measly picture.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Mayor: School Boss Should Apologize to Boy Who Drew Crucifix

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think that if he that man did spend most of his life under a rock and did not know about the be whole Jesus being nailed to a cross thing then he could have asked a another teacher before acting like a douche and sending the child home and requiring the child to go see a quack over a measly picture.
    Did you miss the part where the kid already had been drawing pictures of shooting his teacher?

    I'm sure the teacher knows what a cross is. I'm sure that has no bearing on a special needs child with a history of drawing violent pictures having presented his teacher with a torture scene labeled with his own name when asked what he did for thanksgiving.

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    Re: Mayor: School Boss Should Apologize to Boy Who Drew Crucifix

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Did you miss the part where the kid already had been drawing pictures of shooting his teacher?
    If that's what the kid HAS done, why the hell are they just now getting on him for a religious thing??? Seems to me he should have already been sent to a child therapist if he's drawing violent pictures depicting his teacher(s).

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