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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Iran's nuclear program is almost certainly aimed at dramatically overturning the existing balance of power in the Middle East. It is not purely "defensive."

    Such a development would have profound implications for the region's states, and for the critical interests of Western Europe and the United States. When a state's critical interests are impacted, a state will take measures or, as you describe it, "meddle," so as to protect its interests. No rational state abdicates its critical interests and leaves those interests solely to the goodwill of other states, much less those that have typically taken a hostile approach toward its interests or allies.
    Well we could say that all of this started with the Iranian Revolution right? Well why did that start? Looking at Wikipedia:

    "The Shah was perceived by many as beholden to if not a puppet of a non-Muslim Western power (the United States)[23][24] whose culture was contaminating that of Iran."

    Iranian Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Let them kill themselves and we can build up our defenses until we get a real threat, like missiles pointed right at us going to be fired tomorrow.
    Is that all they'll do is kill themselves? Has that been the history of Arab armies and Muslim expansion? Ever heard of Charles Martel?

    And just to get this straight....you'd like to wait...until they're going to fire missiles tomorrow?

    If we can build up our defenses, why can't other people?
    Funny, Chamberlain said the exact same thing
    It was the Austrasians, that hewed on bravely through the thick of the fight, it was they who found and cut down the Saracen King.

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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Is that all they'll do is kill themselves? Has that been the history of Arab armies and Muslim expansion? Ever heard of Charles Martel?

    And just to get this straight....you'd like to wait...until they're going to fire missiles tomorrow?
    I'd like to wait until we have evidence that they are going to attack us, otherwise we are creating blowback for no good reason.

    Funny, Chamberlain said the exact same thing
    No, Hitler was invading, not just innocently building up his defenses.

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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Let the **** hit the fan and let's get this ridiculous war over with...

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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    I'd like to wait until we have evidence that they are going to attack us, otherwise we are creating blowback for no good reason.
    What would you like for evidence? Uranium being spun into weapons grade? Longe range weapons being developed and tested? The promise that Israel is destroyed? The facilitation and funding of international terrorism. The IED and American soldier killing going on in both wars right this second.

    No, Hitler was invading, not just innocently building up his defenses.
    Hitler hadn't invaded before Chamberlain's peace in our time mistake.

    On Oct 1, 1938

    "My good friends, this is the second time in our history that there has come back from Germany to Downing Street peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time [emphasis added]. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts. And now I recommend you to go home and sleep quietly in your beds."
    Germany invaded Poland in September, 1939. Funny, this is exactly your advice here.....go home and sleep and wait until the day before we're attacked.
    It was the Austrasians, that hewed on bravely through the thick of the fight, it was they who found and cut down the Saracen King.

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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    No, Hitler was invading, not just innocently building up his defenses.
    So, was your decision to ignore the point CM was making deliberate, or are you really as ignorant of the history of WWII as your post indicates?

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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Let the **** hit the fan and let's get this ridiculous war over with...
    My vote goes to the Commander in Chief that can prevent the **** from ever hitting the fan
    It was the Austrasians, that hewed on bravely through the thick of the fight, it was they who found and cut down the Saracen King.

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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    My vote goes to the Commander in Chief that can prevent the **** from ever hitting the fan
    Then your vote goes to the guy who will ultimately fail to stop it, and then suck at dealing with it.

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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Then your vote goes to the guy who will ultimately fail to stop it, and then suck at dealing with it.
    Making no sense, is that a learned talent or were you born with it?
    It was the Austrasians, that hewed on bravely through the thick of the fight, it was they who found and cut down the Saracen King.

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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    So, was your decision to ignore the point CM was making deliberate, or are you really as ignorant of the history of WWII as your post indicates?
    Did Neville Chamberlain do nothing when Hitler wanted to expand? No, he rolled out the red carpet for him. I would have had no problem with him taking action there, but until then, was he doing anything wrong in terms of foreign policy?

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