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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Like many, I've never had an issue with going into Iraq for oil. It's been the doctrine of the federal government for at least 30 years if not longer to protect a key national interest in the ME. (See Carter Doctrine) I think we also went in there because of UN resolutions, and because the West was concerned about the "Shia Crescent".

    (Page 1 of 21) - Iran's Policy of Regional Influence: Pan-Shiism or Pan-Islamism? authored by Pahlavi, Pierre.

    Though this may not be factual, I think it affect US foreign policy over there for years since 1979.
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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Alright children, knock it off.
    Not likely. Tom Jones as evident in the deficit thread is unable to discuss without relying almost entirely upon personal attacks. I asked him to provide basic statistical evidence and all he did was personally insult me.
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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Wow are you that Dumb on the subject ??? How much do you know about the Iran-Iraq War huh here are few items for you to go and digest.
    Maybe you should read my entire post before pulling out the insults?

    I wasn't aware that during the Iran-Iraq war numerous supertankers were sunk in the narrowest part of the strait.

    No response from you. Apparently I'm dumb, but you can't prove this happened.

    I wasn't aware that sizable amounts of activity were at the Strait of Hormuz, care to provide evidence of such an occurrence?

    I noticed how you ignored how much of the fighting wasn't around the strait and that the majority of shipments actually moved towards ports away from the conflict. Apparently I'm dumb, but you can't prove that my statement is wrong.

    I wasn't aware that that during the Iran-Iraq war that either side was actively shooting at supertankers that were flagged by other nations. Care to provide evidence of such an occurrence?
    You are partially correct here, except that you ignore how Iran was attacking ships that were from nations that supported Iraq. You explicitly ignored ships from countries not supporting Iraq.

    Shall I go on or ready to admit you have no clue about the subject once again.
    See above. You call me dumb.....but ignore 2/3 of my post.
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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Jones View Post
    LOL - I will probably get another infraction for this - but, whatever - obvious Child, you're an idiot.
    There is little point talking to someone virtually reliant upon personal attacks. That may have worked where you came from, but calling someone an idiot is hardly evidence they are wrong. One must wonder when your ban date will come.
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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Jones View Post
    Americans are proud people who are smart, and smart people protect their interests.
    Proud yes. Smart not so much at times.

    If we're so smart how come we missed Pearl Harbor and 911?
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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Proud yes. Smart not so much at times.

    If we're so smart how come we missed Pearl Harbor and 911?
    Actually there is plenty of evidece that the US leadership was well aware of the inbound Japanse strikeforce that struk pearl harbor on December 7, 1941.

    There was a submarine that spotted the carriers from from which the attackers were launched; however, both the sub and the logs of the communication it sent disappeared.

    For whatever reason, all of the flattops (carriers) were ordered out of the primary harbor seval hours before the attack occurred. As such, believing that we allowed the attack on Pearl Harbor to occur as a justification for entering WWII is hardly stretch.

    As for 911, who knows. That may later be unmasked as a conspiracy as Pearl Harbor was.

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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Jones View Post
    I'm sorry, you lost me with "Saudia Arabia is much more closed off than Saudi Arabia".

    Do you mean another country is more closed off than Saudi Arabia, or Saudi Arabia is more closed of than another country? And closed off from what?

    I'm not sure what it is you are trying to say - can you clarify please?
    It was a typo what it meant to read as "Saudia Arabia much more closed off than Iran."

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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    And you actually have real proof to this correct
    correct. But I don't need to share my information with you.

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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Jones View Post
    LOL - you are out of your cotton picking mind to think that Russia is no longer a strong power in this world - Russia is chock full of very smart and proud people who can turn their country around on a dime - they thought we were not strong when they hit Pearl Harbor - we grew so quick and knocked their snots out of their noses for it so fast it wasn't funny - Russia does not want to be a threat to America no more than America wants to be a threat to Russia - so let's get that straight - we are not a threat to each other - we have never fought each other and we never will.
    There were American forces in Russia during the Russian revolution. Russia is not full of very smart people, proud yes but smart no. Russia cannot pose a single threat to the US except for it's nuke arsenal which Russia would most likely sell to some unstable nation or to terrorists. Why? Because Russians are crooks.
    Now let's get this CIA was in on the 9/11 attack out on the table - LOL - you should boil your water before you drink it, or something - they are about to try the people involved in masterminding 9/11 - if the CIA was involved in any way with 9/11 the masterminds of it would never live to tell about it, if you think of the CIA in the terms you do - and I suppose you also believe we went into Iraq for oil, too - LOL
    I don't believe we went to Iraq for oil. It was more of a policy that we would go into Iraq and that the biggest winner there would be Russia. That way Russia can still be the threat to the rest of the world and especially the US. The US is preparing for a war against Russia, it is already set. And yes, the CIA masterminds would live because they will never be identify.

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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Actually there is plenty of evidece that the US leadership was well aware of the inbound Japanse strikeforce that struk pearl harbor on December 7, 1941.

    There was a submarine that spotted the carriers from from which the attackers were launched; however, both the sub and the logs of the communication it sent disappeared.

    For whatever reason, all of the flattops (carriers) were ordered out of the primary harbor seval hours before the attack occurred. As such, believing that we allowed the attack on Pearl Harbor to occur as a justification for entering WWII is hardly stretch.

    As for 911, who knows. That may later be unmasked as a conspiracy as Pearl Harbor was.

    Sorry that's all conjecture. Sounds like another conspiracy theory to me. I don't buy it.

    It was just a coincidence the the flattops were out at sea. A very lucky coincidence.

    It was nothing more than getting caught with your pants down and higher up arrogant brass refusing to listen to any warnings. I've been in the military. I've see it with my own eyes. Most generals in my opinion are as worthless as a tit on a boar hog. Many have gotten troops killed due to their arrogance or incompetence.
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