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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    The United States Navy excels at clearing a waterway, demolition shreds this unnavigable issue, oil flows freely in days.
    Any idea just how unnavigable the debris from several supertankers actually is?

    But I do like this reliance on oil, yes, everyone relies on oil, every industrialized nation. Meaining we should probably be drilling here at home.
    Not really when you understand how commodity markets work. What we should be doing is getting off oil entirely. Or as much as we can.

    number one...two, Iran relies on oil as well. Her exports cut off, her inability to refine oil(she must import 80% of her gasoline), Iran is done. Toast.
    No question that Iran would be screwed if it could not export oil.
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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Especially when there's a war on. Operating a mine sweeper in water when people are shooting at each other isn't exactly the most efficient operation. Furthermore, who in their right mind is going to sail a supertanker through a war zone?
    We did it during the Iran-Iraq War we did it during Desert Storm. I'm guessing you don't know much about our Mine Sweepers.

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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Who needs mines? Just sink a few large ships in the strait. One doesn't need to entire close it off, just make it unnavigable for large ships, which really isn't that hard considering just how narrow parts of the strait are and how big some of the oil transports are. And hell they don't even need to attack. Raise the threat level to the point where insurance is not practical and oil prices explode. Raising oil prices to a ultra high point has the same effect as shutting down the strait in terms of hurting us via our reliance on oil.
    Sink a few ships? Just a few?..... to close off a strait that is 29 Nautical miles wide at it's narrowest point? Do you have any idea of how many ships it would take to even make that a credible threat?
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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Scorpion89 said to obvious Child, "We did it during the Iran-Iraq War we did it during Desert Storm. I'm guessing you don't know much about our Mine Sweepers."

    Good guess.

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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Crunch asks of obvious Child, "Do you have any idea of how many ships it would take to even make that a credible threat?"

    The only thing obvious about that child is that it's obvious he has no idea whatsoever.
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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Jones View Post
    Scorpion89 said to obvious Child, "We did it during the Iran-Iraq War we did it during Desert Storm. I'm guessing you don't know much about our Mine Sweepers."

    Good guess.
    Yea maybe OC should read up on MCM Avenger class Ships and the fact that we have three on Station in Bahrain MCM 11 USS Gladiator, MCM 12 USS Ardent and MCM 13 USS Dextrous. Along with these three ship two others are slated to join them on long term TDY MCM 14 USS Cheif and MCM 8 USS Scout. Oh and lets not forget the SSNB that we have on Station along with the ASW Airplateforms that are based out of Bahrain and Rota Spain.

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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Yea maybe OC should read up on MCM Avenger class Ships and the fact that we have three on Station in Bahrain MCM 11 USS Gladiator, MCM 12 USS Ardent and MCM 13 USS Dextrous. Along with these three ship two others are slated to join them on long term TDY MCM 14 USS Cheif and MCM 8 USS Scout. Oh and lets not forget the SSNB that we have on Station along with the ASW Airplateforms that are based out of Bahrain and Rota Spain.
    That one should learn about what's what first, but that one won't.

    Hence, the mentality thinking sinking a few ships will somehow block the Gulf of Oman.

    You'd think that when he typed the word "sink" it would have sunk in that they would be on the bottom of the sea and ships could cruise right over them like they weren't even there.

    Somehow he must be thinking that when a ship sinks it doesn't really sink, that's it's blown to big pieces which will be strewn all over the surface making it impossible to get through.

    That's a liberal for you - LOL - I guess he doesn't realize that ships are made of steel and when they are sunk they go directly to the bottom.

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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    We did it during the Iran-Iraq War we did it during Desert Storm. I'm guessing you don't know much about our Mine Sweepers.
    I wasn't aware that during the Iran-Iraq war numerous supertankers were sunk in the narrowest part of the strait. Care to provide evidence of such an occurrence? I wasn't aware that sizable amounts of activity were at the Strait of Hormuz, care to provide evidence of such an occurrence? I wasn't aware that that during the Iran-Iraq war that either side was actively shooting at supertankers that were flagged by other nations. Care to provide evidence of such an occurrence?

    And it's amusing watching people thank what is essentially a lie.
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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Sink a few ships? Just a few?..... to close off a strait that is 29 Nautical miles wide at it's narrowest point? Do you have any idea of how many ships it would take to even make that a credible threat?
    Do you understand just how little of that 29 miles is actual navigable in the first place?

    Do you understand just how debris a supertanker would cast off?
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    Re: Iran Test-Fires Its Longest-Range Missile

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Wars also provide clear solutions, in fact, ultimate solutions.
    You mean like WW1 that was to be the war to end all wars?

    Name me one war that was the ultimate solution. Even WWII, which I believe was justified had Germany split into a communist east zone and the beginning of the cold war. Ultimately we had the Korean conflct and then we were hell bent on stopping the communist threat and got bogged down in Vietnam.

    Getting involved in the middle east in Desert Storm ultimately led to 911.



    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    It is obvious what they are doing and therefore...why not 'touch' them now while they're in the infant stages of developing a nuke?
    Because it could make things worse. Not only mess up the worlds oil supply by clogging the Hormuz strait, but make Iran instead of just wanting to become a major player in their region, more determined to actually use WMD's in the long run for revenge.
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