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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    My basis for disputing your claim is that you can not possibly know what is in the hearts of ALL Americans concerning this.

    Now, your basis?


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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

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    I dunno. I am very torn on this issue. I didn't think Howard Dean did a good job as DNC chairman; however, he is a doctor, and I think he has some good inside knowledge about the health industry to make intelligent assertions. In other words, in this area, I think he has some solid credibility.

    If the bill is going to completely make over the entirety of our system, and taxes levied start immediately, but the change doesn't, shouldn't we get it right?


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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If the bill is going to completely make over the entirety of our system, and taxes levied start immediately, but the change doesn't, shouldn't we get it right?


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    Yes, I think we should get it right. So you agree with Dean?

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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    But neither can you.

    No, I can't, other than viewing the same information that you and others view, ie: Polls, and commentary. But, I know that there are aspects that no one is even bothering to read, in a purposely cumbersome and lengthy bill, that takes over yet another large sector of the economy and changes it.

    Also, the fact that when someone is pushing me to do something quickly without studying it, then something doesn't smell right.


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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

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    Yes, I think we should get it right. So you agree with Dean?

    I agree with anyone who says lets slow down, and get it right.


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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

    Of course it is. I've said from the beginning that anything our current government comes up for in terms of healthcare will be nothing more than a play to the insurance companies. People who think the government is somehow still beholden to us need to wake up. The Democrats aren't going to do anything which benefits us on the whole if it doesn't first benefit the uber rich and huge corporations which feed it. Neither will the Republicans. The quicker people understand this, the quicker we can get to work trying to change it.
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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Of course it is. I've said from the beginning that anything our current government comes up for in terms of healthcare will be nothing more than a play to the insurance companies. People who think the government is somehow still beholden to us need to wake up. The Democrats aren't going to do anything which benefits us on the whole if it doesn't first benefit the uber rich and huge corporations which feed it. Neither will the Republicans. The quicker people understand this, the quicker we can get to work trying to change it.
    I've said from the git-go that no matter who benefits from any sorta health bill, it won't be the people; especially the people who are going to have their spines pulled out with a truckload of new taxes.

    The cost of health care coverage for your average person isn't going to do down. At best, it'll stay where it is and most probably will go up. It's naive to think otherwise.
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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Of course it is. I've said from the beginning that anything our current government comes up for in terms of healthcare will be nothing more than a play to the insurance companies. People who think the government is somehow still beholden to us need to wake up. The Democrats aren't going to do anything which benefits us on the whole if it doesn't first benefit the uber rich and huge corporations which feed it. Neither will the Republicans. The quicker people understand this, the quicker we can get to work trying to change it.

    Clearly defined by the example of Pharma coming aboard. Why can't we know the back room deal? I thought demo's wanted, and promised openness, and transparency?


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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I can't believe the Democrats are going to actually do this. LOL. I mean, I know they're Democrats, but still, this is amazing.

    Almost 70 percent of the population is violently against this bill, but their pride won't allow them to let it go. The Republicans are going to mop up in November over this, then overturn it in 2012.

    This is the true definition of insanity.
    Dude, the American people are overwhelming in support of health care reform in general and a public option in particular.

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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I dunno. I am very torn on this issue. I didn't think Howard Dean did a good job as DNC chairman; however, he is a doctor, and I think he has some good inside knowledge about the health industry to make intelligent assertions. In other words, in this area, I think he has some solid credibility.
    Does the Senate Bill require everyone to obtain health insurance? Does it provide subsidies for those with low incomes?

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