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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    I'll take that to mean you have no idea what doing health care reform right looks like.
    Doing it right:

    Establish medical savings accounts where the INDIVIDUAL freely CHOOSES to contribute his own before-tax dollars into interest bearing accounts from which he can withdraw funds for medical expenses without penalty, and which the INDIVIDUAL retains full control of. This fund is added to each year and by the time the person starts falling apart in middle age he has his own personal fund of hundreds of thousands of dollars to fix his body with at no expense to the taxpayers at all.

    Naturally, the wise individual will purchase catastrophic coverage and that sort of thing, but its his body, his choice, right?

    No reason whatsoever for the government to pretend it's got an obligation to provide health coverage for anyone, because it doesn't.

    That's how it would be done in a free society. Naturally you people are opposed to freedom, but what else is new?

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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    Explain why you believe only one of the problems with our health care system should be addressed.
    Explain why you believe destroying the nation's health care industry AND the nation's economy with one bill should be ignored.

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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I am not saying only one problem should be addressed. But could we possibly address one at a time, so that we can know and understand what is being done?


    j-mac

    That's what they're doing.

    The Democrats have convinced themselves that the problem is that their government hasn't ruined enough lives, and this bill is going to correct this.

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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Let's see a poll showing an overwhelming support for a public option. Thanks in advance.
    Yeah, they keep lying about this imaginary support. I wonder if they believe the lie themselves?

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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Are you talking about the Senate or the House? There aren't 30 Democrats in the Senate opposed the the public option or medicare expansion. There very well could be 30 opposed to this POS.
    What about Ben Nelson and Mary Landreau? Are they on board?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    How would you go about providing every person with access to affordable quality health care.
    You don't.

    People who don't have the skills to get the jobs that pay them the money they need for SuperMedicalCoverEverything Insurance don't get that.

    Welcome to the consequences of freedom. People are responsible for themselves, and those that fail in that get sick and die. Frankly, they're not my problem so there's no reason I should be required to support them. But you have every freedom in this free society to help them using your own money. You should try that sometime, when you grow up and get a job of your own.

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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Yeah, they keep lying about this imaginary support. I wonder if they believe the lie themselves?
    Well, they believe that there's, "overwhelming", public support for the bill. What's that tell ya?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What about Ben Nelson and Mary Landreau? Are they on board?
    Landrieu sold her vote for $300,000,000.

    She should be impeached, of course, as well as who ever made the offer.

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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Landrieu sold her vote for $300,000,000.

    She should be impeached, of course, as well as who ever made the offer.
    That money went to pay for her vote to bring the bill to debate. She said that she wasn't going to vote for it, if it made it past debate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Howard Dean: Health Care Bill 'Bigger Bailout for the Insurance Industry Than AIG

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    For a family making $85,000 (about $60,000 net), this bill would cost them about $15,000 per year.
    How do you figure that, Erod?

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