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    Re: Oral Roberts leaves a complex legacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Some of my opinions about Oral:

    Thief. Liar. Manipulator. Spreader of Hate. Con-man. Sheister. Scum.

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    Re: Oral Roberts leaves a complex legacy

    Oral Roberts died?

    Thank god!

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    Re: Oral Roberts leaves a complex legacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Oral Roberts died?

    Thank god!
    That's the opposite of what god said

    God: "Oral Roberts died.....****! He's not coming here, is he?"
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    Re: Oral Roberts leaves a complex legacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Evangelist Oral Roberts leaves a complex legacy



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    The guy was an asshole who preyed on the weak-minded to raise millions of dollars. If there is a hell, he's in it.
    While I have no place or right to judge the man (this is God's place), he did prey on those who were gullible and stupid. What amazes me is his university is still running. Why would people go there?
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    Re: Oral Roberts leaves a complex legacy

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    I'll never forget that appeal to raise the money for his university. It made him a laughing stock. He may have been sincere, but I think he was a mass manipulator. A rabid anti-Catholic too, I hear.

    NPR had a good interview of Pat Robertson yesterday about the passing of Oral Roberts. He indicated that Roberts regreted that ridiculous appeal. Here's a link to the transcript of the interview which you can also listen too.

    Pat Robertson Remembers Evangelist Oral Roberts : NPR
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Oral Roberts leaves a complex legacy

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    Works for Michael Moore, most of Congress... Pelosi, Reid, Barney Frank... I'm looking forward to the thread just like this one when they buy the farm.
    Can't come soon enough, either.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Oral Roberts leaves a complex legacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Evangelist Oral Roberts leaves a complex legacy



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    The guy was an asshole who preyed on the weak-minded to raise millions of dollars. If there is a hell, he's in it.
    Don't badmouth Oral Roberts. He said God would take him if people did not send enough money to him. Now he is dead. That makes him a prophet.
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    Re: Oral Roberts leaves a complex legacy

    While it is probably pointless, I'd like to interject a Christian perspective here.

    Many of us (myself and my pastor, to name two) long considered Oral Roberts to be a person who was, at best, theologically dubious and overly flamboyant... or at worst, a embarassing con-man masquerading as a man of God.

    God will judge him, not me... but I would hope that reasonable people will not generalize and assume that Oral Roberts' more questionable antics were/are representative of Christianity as a whole, or even of Evangelicals as a whole.

    There are many thousands of Christian ministers who live simple humble lives, often serving as a pastor of a small church while working a regular full-time job to make ends meet for their family, and never appear on TV or make the news. They are not flamboyant and colorful, but when one of their members is sick they visit them in the hospital. They aren't famous or wealthy, but they are always there to comfort a family who has lost a loved one. They may never say a word about politics but always have a word of comfort for someone who needs it.

    I regret that the many who serve faithfully and quietly are largely overlooked in favor of the flamboyant and controversial.

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    Re: Oral Roberts leaves a complex legacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Evangelist Oral Roberts leaves a complex legacy



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    The guy was an asshole who preyed on the weak-minded to raise millions of dollars. If there is a hell, he's in it.
    I think these tv preachers are nothing more than con men they are just as worse as the scum who prey on the elderly. He basically told his congregation/tv viewers that God was going to kill him if he didn't raise 8 million dollars and those fools bought it and gave him 8 million dollars.Jesus didn't own a mule but for some reason Oral Roberts needed millions of dollars. He is like those circus clowns on TBN with that woman who looks like she took make-up and hair tips from Tammy Baker or a six year old.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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