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DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

ITs more the human sexuality's primary purpose in pro-creation. Anyone defining it as anything else is simply wrong. And your sexual behavior....isn't relevant enough to define orientation...not if you're a father. Sorry.

You do realize that my penis never touched her vagina, right?
 
ITs more the human sexuality's primary purpose in pro-creation. Anyone defining it as anything else is simply wrong. And your sexual behavior....isn't relevant enough to define orientation...not if you're a father. Sorry.

Again, this is nothing but your opinion and your morality. That and a quarter is worth...a quarter.

It applies to no on but you. Try not to confuse facts with opinions which is what you are doing.
 
I just quit bothering when he insisted that because I assisted in an artificial inseminatation, I was suddenly not gay anymore.

It's actually fun watching him claim to know something, when it is obvious to everyone that he's just spewing some foolish opinion of his.
 
I just quit bothering when he insisted that because I assisted in an artificial inseminatation, I was suddenly not gay anymore.

Artificial...you mean...not real? You mean as opposed to a natural insemination? You mean your sperm was actually used for it's primary purpose?

Then the same argument applies. That act of artificial insemination that impregnated a woman...that was your most meaningful ejaculation...do you realize that? Nothing..no sheer act of gymnastics or high flying homosexual circustry can match what happened after a single one of your sperm penetrated his mother's egg. That single sperm beyond any sexual act you consider yourself expert at, look at pics of your son and then tell me different.

You ain't homosexual, sorry.
 
And... speaking in generic terms, your argument is simply not supported by the facts.

Current Biology (2007) "Structural Plasticity: Rewiring the Brain"


See also:
Neuroplasticity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So all left handed people can learn to write with their write hand? They tried this in the 50's--some can, some can't.

All tone deaf people can learn to write music? Anyone can be a great creative artist or mathematician with just a little rewiring? Maybe in the future, but right now -- no.

And I think the behavioral traits I'm talking about are different than the one's you're talking about. Also, it depends on how 'hard'-wired a trait is.

Take low-impulse control; a personality trait common with criminals. Are they all the same? Can this be changed? Well, see a movie called Clockwork Orange and get back to me.

Can a emotionally sensitive person become more or less based on environment. Of course. But, how much more or less will depend on their hard-wired (birth) starting point.
 
So you can be gay until you conceive a child, and that is the miracle gay cure!

its so simple!

Wrong again, how is it you remain confused. You can "call" yourself gay, should you conceive a child, that is the utmost and ultimate heterosexual endeavor. There is NOTHING more heterosexual than procreation, it is the very defintion of human sexuality. Therefore, you ain't gay. Call yourself gay, hope and pray to be gay, act flamboyant, lust after your same gender all you;d like. That's preference and choice, you ain't gay. Sorry.
 
Incorrect. But since you put it out there, prove that with some substantiation. Links would be nice. Your morality and opinion only is not acceptable.

Dead on balls accurate I'm afraid. Sorry. Truth hurts sometimes.:cool:
 
This just gets better and better.

What if a gay guy masturbates, then cleans up the mess with a paper towel, and unknown to him an ovulating female picks it up after him and self fertilizes using his refuse? Is he not gay then?
 
Artificial...you mean...not real? You mean as opposed to a natural insemination? You mean your sperm was actually used for it's primary purpose?

Then the same argument applies. That act of artificial insemination that impregnated a woman...that was your most meaningful ejaculation...do you realize that? Nothing..no sheer act of gymnastics or high flying homosexual circustry can match what happened after a single one of your sperm penetrated his mother's egg. That single sperm beyond any sexual act you consider yourself expert at, look at pics of your son and then tell me different.

You ain't homosexual, sorry.

I think my most meaningful ejaculation was probably on August 14th of 2000. It's the one that made me see stars.
 
Not be selfish or anything, but does this mean I can get married now?

Sure you can get married, you're held to the same exact restrictions that I am. You cannot marry within gender, you cannot marry if already married, you cannot marry your brother or sister and in many states you cannot marry your first cousins. Truth be told....now that you've stopped being selfish...we've ALWAYS been held to the same standards meaning, no one has ever disciminated against you as far as marriage is concerned.
 
Dead on balls accurate I'm afraid. Sorry. Truth hurts sometimes.:cool:

Dead on balls inaccurate I'm afraid. It must really hurt you to know that all you have is opinion and morality and are completely devoid of facts. Do try to keep your chin up. ;)
 
If part of your goal is to "understand the medical science" then you should be thanking me for clearing up some of your more blatant misconceptions.

You didn't clear anything up. You just tried to confuse and muddy my point by interjecting medical terminology.

My point was that as odd as some behavior seems (foot fetish) there is a scientific explanation for behavior.

We often separate body and mind when speaking--and we see the 'mind' and psychology in some sort of abstract. But the mind, our thoughts, behaviors, moods, are all just chemistry. All of that brain chemistry has a starting place--pre-birth.
 
Wrong again, how is it you remain confused. You can "call" yourself gay, should you conceive a child, that is the utmost and ultimate heterosexual endeavor. There is NOTHING more heterosexual than procreation, it is the very defintion of human sexuality. Therefore, you ain't gay. Call yourself gay, hope and pray to be gay, act flamboyant, lust after your same gender all you;d like. That's preference and choice, you ain't gay. Sorry.

So instead of telling us who is NOT gay (without any substantiation), enlighten us all with who you think would be classified as gay.
 
Dead on balls inaccurate I'm afraid. It must really hurt you to know that all you have is opinion and morality and are completely devoid of facts. Do try to keep your chin up. ;)

Not only chock full of fact, your not being able to take issue with it is telling. You can write devoid of fact, it makes no difference. You engage in the most heterosexual endeavor there is...then you ain;t gay(AND I"M NOT SPEAKING AT YOU). You may enjoy sex with the same gender, you ain't oriented gay, you're obviously oriented hetero, you choose to act gay.

And....Chin is tucked in tight, the lefts and rights coming from those of you so agenda driven, I need to be able to take punches. And throw reality right back at ya. IF this was a prize fight, they would have already ended it and raised my arm in victory. TKO is what they call that.
 
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Captain, this isn't explicitly at the poster, this is an in general and I'll request your warning be stricken. I'm not speaking at any one person, I'm saying, if yer a parent, you ain;t gay. It goes for everyone. Please respond, I want no point deducs I'm following every debatepolitics rule.
 
Captain, this isn't explicitly at the poster, this is an in general and I'll request your warning be stricken. I'm not speaking at any one person, I'm saying, if yer a parent, you ain;t gay. It goes for everyone. Please respond, I want no point deducs I'm following every debatepolitics rule.

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Not only chock full of fact, your not being able to take issue with it is telling. You can write devoid of fact, it makes no difference. You engage in the most heterosexual endeavor there is...then you ain;t gay. You may enjoy sex with the same gender, you ain't oriented gay, you're obviously oriented hetero, you choose to act gay.

Nope. Nothing factual here. You don't understand the difference between sexual behavior and sexual orientation. They are not necessarily consistent between each other. Further, your entire premise is based on a non-sequitur. Conceiving a child is NOT a heterosexual act. It is a reproductive act and is separate from human sexuality. Again, you don't seem to understand this.

And....Chin is tucked in tight, the lefts and rights coming from those of you so agenda driven, I need to be able to take punches. And throw reality right back at ya. IF this was a prize fight, they would have already ended it and raised my arm in victory. TKO is what they call that.

If this was a prize fight, you'd be in the shower after I KOed you with one punch. You've shown us NOTHING.
 
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Jallman offered his sexuality! And my post WAS NOT towards Jallman, I JUST responded to you in the same exact manner and will repeat...it is an in general opinion that is not against the rules. You precreate, you ain't gay. It's not targeted at ANYONE, please review your warning and reconsider.

thanks.
 
Jallman offered his sexuality! And my post WAS NOT towards Jallman, I JUST responded to you in the same exact manner and will repeat...it is an in general opinion that is not against the rules. You precreate, you ain't gay. It's not targeted at ANYONE, please review your warning and reconsider.

thanks.

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You don't understand the difference between sexual behavior and sexual orientation.

I understand it perfectly, you are the confused one here, Sir.

They are not necessarily consistent between each other.

Really? Explain.

Further, your entire premise is based on a non-sequitur. Conceiving a child is NOT a heterosexual act. It is a reproductive act and is separate from human sexuality. Again, you don't seem to understand this.

The act of an ejaculation from a man's penis into a woman's vagina isn't a heterosexual act? You are the one with a gross and colossal misunderstanding, this is a massive error in judgement imo.

If this was a prize fight, you'd be in the shower after I KOed you with one punch. You've shown us NOTHING.

I'd be in the shower deciding which hetero female in the crowd I was going to take to dinner after she had watched me piecemeal your argument that is itself devoid of fact and a wholesale error. You're wrong here Captain, you ain't even close. And that's not a genral statement that one, YOU are wrong here. Not even close. And I'm sorry about that.
 
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I'll repeat with utter clarity and understanding and confidence. If you've conceived a child, you are not gay.
 
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