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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Marriage isn't as sacred or important as it used to be, state sanctioned or otherwise. Not in this country at least.
    All the more reason to promote it.

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    Just like some homosexuals have no basis for them now?
    Worse!

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    It would change society, and therefore affect everyone. If marriage were inconsequential, suuporters would see no reason to lobby for it.
    You didn't answer my question. How would a gay marriage affect someone who is not gay?


    Taking government out of marriage is a recipe for disaster. But more to the main point - I don't believe I've stated any view for or against gay marriage in this thread. Rather, I've been expressing a view strongly in favor of the debate being decided by voters rather than politicians.
    I would agree and do not support taking government out of marriage.

    And politicians are supposed to listen to the will of the voters. We did elect them.


    Semantics. Roe v. Wade didn't change the constitution, but it certainly changed the law, making abortion legal.
    Which is what I said. A new situation arose, therefore the Constitution was used to address it.


    This is not relevant to the point I made.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Which you usually have to earn or qualify for...
    As with marriage.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

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    LOL - now you're really stretching.
    I quoted him and paraphrased. You're denying.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You didn't answer my question. How would a gay marriage affect someone who is not gay?
    All sorts of ways ranging from how people view such relationships to preferential adoption to taxes to a whole myriad of things.

    How could it NOT affect you?

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    As with marriage.
    Having a different kind of intercourse should not deter one from earning marriage; because a lot of marriages, by that standard, are just as "bad", if not worse, than homosexual marriages.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    All sorts of ways ranging from how people view such relationships to preferential adoption to taxes to a whole myriad of things.

    How could it NOT affect you?
    He's not homosexual, nor does he care what people do in their bedrooms on their own time. So he's not affected.


    EDIT: Your Socratic method isn't getting this debate anywhere.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I quoted him and paraphrased. You're denying.
    Haha -
    You misinterpreted the point of my earlier statement and are now trying to cover your butt! I see right through it whether you wish to admit it or not.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    All the more reason to promote it.
    Which of the versions of Marriage do you want to propose? Many cultures have a polygamist marriage system. Should we take their definition? Many people from those cultures live in America.

    Marriage is something that is vastly different from culture to culture, and is not something that should be defined by the state, for it would imply issues with those cultures that do not define marriage as between one man and one woman.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Which of the versions of Marriage do you want to propose? Many cultures have a polygamist marriage system. Should we take their definition? Many people from those cultures live in America.

    Marriage is something that is vastly different from culture to culture, and is not something that should be defined by the state, for it would imply issues with those cultures that do not define marriage as between one man and one woman.
    Polygamy: More common than you'd think.

    From Wikipedia:
    "According to the Ethnographic Atlas Codebook, of the 1231 societies noted, 186 were monogamous. 453 had occasional polygyny, 588 had more frequent polygyny"..."even within societies which allow polygyny, the actual practice of polygyny occurs relatively rarely"..."Similarly, within societies that formally prohibit polygamy, social opinion may look favorably on persons maintaining mistresses or engaging in serial monogamy."

    Ethnographic Atlas Codebook:
    http://eclectic.ss.uci.edu/~drwhite/...EthnoAtlas.pdf

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