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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    That's what we're trying to debate.
    There's nothing to debate. Current marriage laws violate the 14th Amendment.

    Either eliminate government sanctioned marriage or extend it to same sex couples. Which option do you favor?

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Not in the least. Copying my post demonstrates that you've got nothing...but then that's all you've had from the beginning of the debate. Btw, I'm still waiting for some evidence of the design of things. Will that be coming soon?
    When you post something of substance I'll be happy to respond. I'm altogether bored with your pompous "I'm right because I say I'm right and I've been saying I'm right for two years and if you disagree it's not my problem because I'm right" bloviations.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    There's nothing to debate. Current marriage laws violate the 14th Amendment.
    What do you think the probability is that the Supreme Court would agree? If there's "nothing to debate" do you think it would be unanimous?

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    That's a great question for CR since he's the one that wants government to get out of marriage. I believe he'd say it would make everything "equal" but I don't know that he's thought it through above and beyond that.
    So called private marriage is only equal AFTER government sanctioned marriage is abolished. Until then, it's worthless in that it lacks tax subsidized benefits.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    So called private marriage is only equal AFTER government sanctioned marriage is abolished. Until then, it's worthless in that it lacks tax subsidized benefits.
    How would it have tax subsidized benefits if it weren't "government sanctioned?"

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    How would it have tax subsidized benefits if it weren't "government sanctioned?"
    Paperwork can solve that problem, just tack on some lines in the IRS code.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    What do you think the probability is that the Supreme Court would agree? If there's "nothing to debate" do you think it would be unanimous?
    Oh, it'll happen and we're inching toward that day. Unfortunately, the Supreme Court takes its sweet time about these things. Look how long it took them to strike down laws that prohibited interracial marriage.

    As to unanimous, I'm not sure. But it was unanimous (9-0) in Loving v Virginia (1967) when they struck down marriage laws that discriminated on the basis of race.

    So, which of the two options do you favor - elimination of government sanctioned marriage or extending it to same sex couples?

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    So, which of the two options do you favor - elimination of government sanctioned marriage or extending it to same sex couples?
    If I were forced to pick one or the other, I'd choose the latter. I see no benefits to eliminating the government role.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    How would it have tax subsidized benefits if it weren't "government sanctioned?"
    It wouldn't and that's the point. As long as both systems co-exist, then "private marriage" is worthless.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    It wouldn't and that's the point. As long as both systems co-exist, then "private marriage" is worthless.
    You would then never ever get such a measure passed.
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