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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    The second part of your post wasn't relevant. The two aren't mutually exclusive -and although I agree that it's beneficial- whether or not that's the case is a different issue that has little bearing on what i said.
    That's the problem with your position. The second part of my comment is entirely relevant and without it, the position...yours...makes no sense and is irrelevant. So I can understand why you omitted it.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    With a Federal Government operating from a position that shows lack of a moral compass this is to be expected. For years this perversion has been pushed and lies have created an atmosphere makes it okay to go against nature and claim the individual has no choice because after all they were born that way.

    That was a lie when it was first brought forward and research has shown time and again that it is choice.

    Sadly the recruiting has become acceptable and with Obama's School Drug and Safety Czar it's not only being pushed but it's getting dangerous as well.

    People who lack the ability to deal with the opposite sex turn to being gay because of this inability. In a family of 5 Boys one chose to be gay and it is a direct result of lack skill and tact and not the addition of this magic none existent gene.


    I don't just say this take a look for yourself; The Gay Gene?

    On July 15, 1993, National Public Radio (NPR) made a dramatic announcement on stations across the country: Was a team of scientists at the National Institutes of Health on the trail of a gene that causes homosexuality? Their report would be published the next day in Science, one of the two most prestigious scientific research journals in the world.[1]
    The discussion that followed explained for the listening public the implications of these findings for social attitudes toward homosexuality and for public policy concerning it. Science was on the verge of proving what many had long argued: that homosexuality is innate, genetic and therefore unchangeable-a normal and commonplace variant of human nature. In the light of these findings, surely only the bigoted or ignorant could condemn it in any way.

    Shortly after the announcement, amidst a well-orchestrated blizzard of press discussions, there ensued the watershed legal battle over "Proposition 2" in Colorado. (This popularly enacted legislation precluded making sexual orientation the basis of "privileged class" minority status, a status conferred previously only on the basis of immutable factors such as race.)

    Among the many crucial issues raised by the legislation was the question as to whether homosexuality was indeed normal, innate and unchangeable. One prominent researcher testified to the court, "I am 99.5% certain that homosexuality is genetic." But this personal opinion was widely misunderstood as "homosexuality is 99.5% genetic," implying that research had demonstrated this. Certainly, that was the message promulgated by NPR's report on the recent research, and by all the discussions that followed. In a few weeks, Newsweek would emblazon across its cover the phrase that would stick in the public mind as the final truth about homosexuality: "Gay Gene?"

    Of course, just near the end of the NPR discussion, certain necessary caveats were fleetingly added. But only an expert knew what they meant- that the research actually showed nothing whatever in the way of what was being discussed. The vast majority of listeners would think that homosexuality had been all but conclusively proven to be "genetic." But the real question is whether or not there is such a "gay gene."

    In fact, there is not, and the research being promoted as proving that there is provides no supporting evidence. How can this be? In order to understand what is really going on, one needs to understand some little- known features of the emerging study of behavioral genetics (much subtler than the genetics of simple, "Mendelian" traits such as eye color).

    When it comes to questions of the genetics of any behavior-homosexuality included-all of the following statements are likely to be at least roughly true:


    Such and such a behavior "is genetic";
    There are no genes that produce the behavior;
    The genes associated with the behavior are found on such and such a chromosome;
    The behavior is significantly heritable;
    The behavior is not inherited.
    The scientific distinctions that make these seeming contradictions perfectly reasonable and consistent seem completely misunderstood by the media who report on them.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Really? I didn't know that. Patronizing won't get you very far with me. The vagina has purposes other than sexual intercourse. I would think you would know that.
    So now we're no longer talking about pissing toxins but for any vague purpose. And we're not talking about sexual reproduction but the act of intercouse.

    Keep moving those goalposts, you're bound to score on one of these attempts.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    wait wait wait.

    Taylor, you think Procreation is the main reason for marriage?
    No, no - I never said "the main reason" and the context was a bit broader than just procreation.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    With a Federal Government operating from a position that shows lack of a moral compass this is to be expected. For years this perversion has been pushed and lies have created an atmosphere makes it okay to go against nature and claim the individual has no choice because after all they were born that way.

    That was a lie when it was first brought forward and research has shown time and again that it is choice.

    Sadly the recruiting has become acceptable and with Obama's School Drug and Safety Czar it's not only being pushed but it's getting dangerous as well.

    People who lack the ability to deal with the opposite sex turn to being gay because of this inability. In a family of 5 Boys one chose to be gay and it is a direct result of lack skill and tact and not the addition of this magic none existent gene.


    I don't just say this take a look for yourself; The Gay Gene?
    Another one who doesn't get it.

    1) Please show evidence that sexual orientation is a choice.
    2) Remember that every time you mention "nature" as "evidence" you commit the appeal to nature logical fallacy and make your position invalid.
    3) Please provide evidence that someone who "lacks the ability to deal with the opposite sex" will become gay.

    You have posted nothing but fallacies and inaccuracies, Councilman. If you can't provide evidence for what you claimed...which most assuredly you can't, all you have are your own opinions and morality...which added to a quarter are worth...about a quarter.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    So now we're no longer talking about pissing toxins but for any vague purpose. And we're not talking about sexual reproduction but the act of intercouse.

    Keep moving those goalposts, you're bound to score on one of these attempts.
    No, this is what we've always been talking about. YOUR narrow view has been shown to be fallacious. That's how debate works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    No, no - I never said "the main reason" and the context was a bit broader than just procreation.
    Ah...so now your backing off, eh? So why don't you tell us what you really mean. You seem to be either having a difficult time expressing it or are getting caught in your own inaccuracies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    That's the problem with your position. The second part of my comment is entirely relevant and without it, the position...yours...makes no sense and is irrelevant. So I can understand why you omitted it.
    My assertion makes perfect sense with or without your comment. You've been unable to explain otherwise.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, this is what we've always been talking about. YOUR narrow view has been shown to be fallacious. That's how debate works.
    Oh come on - do I really need to go back and post the history?

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    My assertion makes perfect sense with or without your comment. You've been unable to explain otherwise.
    It may make sense, but not in the context of this debate. Try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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