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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Yes I did. I even quoted your study.

    And my argument was based on your inability to prove your original claim of genetics.
    Which doesn't constitute proof. You obviously still don't get it.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So marriage is not "an aspect of life"? If it is, then it is covered, if it is not, I am curious to hear you explain how it isn't.
    No, it is not because it is not in that law.

    Everything is an aspect of life.

    Death is an aspect of life
    Children are an aspect of live
    Poverty is an aspect of life
    and the list is endless.

    Is is a general phrase you are trying to shoehorn a specific argument into.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Which doesn't constitute proof. You obviously still don't get it.
    What part of page 1 do you not understand?

    Take a look. The first claim was that it was genetic.

    After that, the burden of proof is on the people who claim that.

    They failed.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, what you are talking about is the issuance of a Marriage license right? Also the priviliages that current married couples enjoy from marriage right? Then what about a civil union?
    There was a time I believed that a civil union was a fair compromise. However, I have come to the conclusion that issuing a separate but equal license will only lead to further attempts by the opposition to legally tie up the rights granted by the civil union. If the license is the exact same, right down to the name, I see much less wiggle room for them to try to diminish our rights and freedoms without doing the same to theirs.


    Well, you listed off some things in your response like: Division politics, yet you say that now is the time that the gay community use that as a tactic. also, personal adherence to tradition, would seem to fly in the face of the gay argument.


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    I said division politics that pit liberty against religion. Secularism vs Fundamentalism. Mainstreaming the extremes of both parties during elections but then spurning them when the election is over. Pitting left against right over the devil in the details when the whole time, both parties are after the exact same thing: peaceful coexistence within a plural society.

    Adherence to tradition, personally, doesn't fly in the face of gay marriage. It is a nod to recognizing your traditions are yours and don't have to be validated by society as a whole. Respect for our elders, passing moral instruction to our children, observance of holidays and religious celebrations...these things don't need to be codefied into law. People need to take responsibility for these practices as individuals regardless of what society says.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    What part of page 1 do you not understand?

    Take a look. The first claim was that it was genetic.

    After that, the burden of proof is on the people who claim that.

    They failed.
    Could you point me to the specific post? I'm not seeing it.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    No, it is not because it is not in that law.

    Everything is an aspect of life.

    Death is an aspect of life
    Children are an aspect of live
    Poverty is an aspect of life
    and the list is endless.

    Is is a general phrase you are trying to shoehorn a specific argument into.
    And those all fit within the meaning of the law. You have to be treated the same in life, the same in death, the same in poverty or wealth. Your murder example however did not fit within the meaning of the law since it is not an aspect of life.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Could you point me to the specific post? I'm not seeing it.
    Page 1.

    Count on the courts to step in and "correct" a grave injustice to the civil rights of homosexuals.
    The Civil Rights Movement 1955-1965: Introduction

    The civil rights movement was about African American equality and in some cases equality for women.

    Both African Americans and women are defined by genetics. It is not a lifestyle.

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    so did interracial marriage. btw, a goat can't consent.

    Again, a comparison of homosexuality to race.

    To make such a comparison requires a common thread. Genetics would be the only common thread.

    Another example page 11

    so it was ok for that minister not to marry the interracial couple? oh, he wasn't a minister? a justice of the peace?

    So the race comparison was made not once, not twice but at least 3 times probably more before I ever joined the thread on page 19.


    So yes, the claim was made long before I ever even joined making the burden of proof on the people who made and support that claim.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Could you point me to the specific post? I'm not seeing it.
    Here, this is the one I refer to.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    There is no evidence people are created gay. To beleive that is to believe a fallacy.

    There is no genetic study anywhere proving even 60% of only homosexuals (60% because I'm so generous not asking for 90 or 100% certainty) showing them to carry any genetic trait so your statement is flat out false unless you can prove otherwise.

    And we know you can't.
    Does the meaning seem unclear?
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And those all fit within the meaning of the law. You have to be treated the same in life, the same in death, the same in poverty or wealth. Your murder example however did not fit within the meaning of the law since it is not an aspect of life.
    Of course murder can be an aspect of life. If someone is murdered you know, that is an aspect of your life. If you see a murder, that is an aspect of life.

    This is why your claim that homosexuality can be specifically defined by aspect of life when the phrase itself covers everything in life from birth to death a ridiculous argument.

    You are going to have to face the fact that gay marriage is not specifically covered there and therefore they absolutely went against the rights of the people to vote on the issue by denying that vote.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Here, this is the one I refer to.



    Does the meaning seem unclear?
    Until you can read who began the argument, you are hopelessly lost to logic.

    Look up, I even quoted the people who originally made the claim.

    The argument did not begin with you Redress.
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