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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

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    And...can I just ask about the Santa pic? I mean, I don't want to get stomped by the mods, but, what in the world?
    Hot, isn't it?

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Your grasp on reality, where this issue is concerned, is slipping. It is a back and forth struggle. It is far from over.

    You may enjoy your little "neener, neener" moment today. But I hope you choke on the crow you find yourself eating tomorrow.

    I am not worried, in the least, that marriage will be denied to homosexuals for long. In fact, I give the issue 5 to 10 years and it will be decided in favor of homosexuals.
    I think gay marriage will be a reality in our lifetime.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    As we see DC become the fifth 'locale', joining 4 other states, it appears clear why a national amendent would have made sense during Bush's first term. Many who oppose same sex marriage opposed an amendment to our Constitution, this would have prevented this issue from being yanked from constitutent's decisions-making processes

    Where I support this as it's a 'legislative move', it isn't the standard legislature as DC isn't a state. Congress holds ultimate authority, and there is a DoMA law currently written, my guess is Democrats will forego and ignore the law signed by President Clinton and approve ssm anyway torching off much more debate.

    ...and why...like my state...an amendment to the state constitution defining marriage and specifically not recognizing other state's decisions on this matter become even more critical. We the People need to define what marriage is...not a court....not some Executive Mayor or some House member...We the People must remain the ultimate deciders, we're the one's who need to specifically define and make laws pertaining and regarding marriage. End of story.

    Let's not pretend that you are concerned about "We the people". You are concerned with nothing but your own impositions. There is no logical reason to not allow same-sex marriage, only subjective nonsense. That is where a line must be drawn in a legal system based on liberty, it must contain an objective element that exceeds the subjectiveness. Just because you do not like something does not mean it must be promulgated into law. Can people like you comprehend this? Your reasoning takes away freedoms and imposes your selfish restrictions on an entire population of people, same-sex marriage proponents reasoning allows everyone to be free and live their lives. Absolutely nothing in your life is being diminished due to same-sex marriage. You, on the other hand, are creating 2nd class citizens by allowing a government based on liberty to restrict people under the law. That is what this is about, people like you wanting to feel like you are above another group of people. So do not pretend to care about "We the people."

    Our Constitution is not a toy, it is not a means to impose what you want society to be like. The Constitution is meant to be law imposed on the government, not the people. It restricts the government and allows for freedoms to its citizens. The fact that you would support a constitutional amendment that bans same-sex marriage only shows your lack of knowledge on what our system of government is.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

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    Read the ****ing thread.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

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    Hot, isn't it?
    Well if it was Carrie Prejan nude it would be......but that is just my opinion. LOL

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Well if it was Carrie Prejan nude it would be......but that is just my opinion. LOL
    I think you should join the sexy santa avatar party we have started this year.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    As we see DC become the fifth 'locale', joining 4 other states, it appears clear why a national amendent would have made sense during Bush's first term. Many who oppose same sex marriage opposed an amendment to our Constitution, this would have prevented this issue from being yanked from constitutent's decisions-making processes
    No, this is exactly in line with the constituents' decision-making process. DC's city council and mayor were elected by the voters of DC. The voters have the power to vote them out of office if they're upset. Similarly, gay marriage has been legalized in other states by courts that were appointed by the elected representatives of the people. The voters have the power to vote their officials out of office and elect people who promise to appoint anti-gay judges instead, if that's what they want.

    On the other hand, an amendment to the US Constitution banning gay marriage *would* yank the issue from the constituents' decision-making process.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel
    Where I support this as it's a 'legislative move', it isn't the standard legislature as DC isn't a state. Congress holds ultimate authority, and there is a DoMA law currently written, my guess is Democrats will forego and ignore the law signed by President Clinton and approve ssm anyway torching off much more debate.
    As they should. Frankly it shouldn't be any of Congress' goddamn business what we decide to do in DC, except inasmuch as it affects the workings of the federal government.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel
    ...and why...like my state...an amendment to the state constitution defining marriage and specifically not recognizing other state's decisions on this matter become even more critical. We the People need to define what marriage is...not a court....not some Executive Mayor or some House member...We the People must remain the ultimate deciders, we're the one's who need to specifically define and make laws pertaining and regarding marriage. End of story.
    Why? Why do we the people need to decide that, instead of our elected representatives?
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

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    So no the policies don't leave with them.

    Some of these things can not be repealed once enacted.
    What are you talking about? Why couldn't it be repealed? I've never heard of a law that couldn't be repealed.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

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    You know what they say... put up or shut up.

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