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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Problem is your content is irrelevant both because it is and because you don't understand the process of debate. If you did, you wouldn't present the content that you have because you'd KNOW it was irrelevant.
    The content that children suffer from no father in the home is relevant. the issue of step parents....is relevant. the fact that all the research..that is miniscule to date...doesn't compare parenting skills as you're trying to do, the research finds for better AND WORSE, children suffer the same fates. The increased risks of step parenting are just as real, the lack of a male father in the home having devastating effects are just as real, these are ALL relevant issues.

    I have stayed right on message. Orientation has nothing to do with parenting skills whatosever. It doesn't make you a worse parent...it doesn't make you a better one either. You cannot be a female father in any home even if you'd like to be. Similarly, one cannot be a male mother in any home.

    And is why the nuclear, two parent male father and female mother remaining married and in the home.....is BY FAR...the best scenario for children we know of and has had multiple effects on each and all of us. Every one of us. This is concrete and a pillar of my sound argument you cannot touch to date but rather..address process and claim to know what I understand and do not understand. This is a platform in my argument that marriage should remain 1) defined by society, we the People 2) it be realized that a one man and one woman relationship called marriage should remain unique, should remain THE primary and most sought after relationship in our society and culture, all others are secondary. Children should remain THE PRIMARY reason for marriage, the reason the woman takes the man's name, the reason the children are then given that name.

    Now...want to change it all....go through proper channels and convince the rest of us you are correct. Give some actual truth and fact, rely on something other than "yer not reasonable"..."you don't understand"...you're process is all wrong." Cause, that's a huge deflection...is about as transparent as Casper the friendly ghost and is the same ol lame and tired nonsense others are trying to use in here.

    Then continue to make an even better case than that as....you've got influential constituents such as myself who don't give your same sex marriage arguments much respect as they aren't founded in anything but agenda driven drivel.

    Next.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Sigh...I refuse to discuss this issue with Charles anymore. He makes his arguments the he ignores the counterarguments and runs away. That is not the kind of person you waste your time with on a debate forum.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Sigh...I refuse to discuss this issue with Charles anymore. He makes his arguments the he ignores the counterarguments and runs away. That is not the kind of person you waste your time with on a debate forum.
    A man's got to know his limitations, any argument must know it's fence lines as well

    My arguments too solid too good, your same ol song and tired dance will lose to lesser arguments. There is no shame in your white flag here.None at all.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    A man's got to know his limitations, any argument must know it's fence lines as well

    My arguments too solid too good, your same ol song and tired dance will lose to lesser arguments. There is no shame in your white flag here.None at all.
    You are an idiot.

    I don't care if I get thread banned for saying it, it's the truth.

    Here is the post.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1058449658

    Whenever you want to stop being a coward and fess up that you don't know **** about statistics then have at it. Until then, you aren't worth my time.
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    Actually I'm quite intelligent and the stick and stones childish comments don't offend me. You cannot address my arguments, cannot answer simple questions and...yer taking the easy way out.

    Typical. Predictable. Another emblem for the fuselage.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Too bad I already posted the relevant Holy Grail scene some 30 (50?) pages back as a thread summary, the parallels continue.

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    Oh, oh, I see, running away then.
    You yellow bastards!
    Come back here and take what's coming to you.
    I'll bite your legs off!
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Actually I'm quite intelligent and the stick and stones childish comments don't offend me. You cannot address my arguments, cannot answer simple questions and...yer taking the easy way out.

    Typical. Predictable. Another emblem for the fuselage.
    You have the post that challenges your stats. I'm waiting you coward.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1058449658

    Address the arguments or shut the **** up.

    You have no arguments.
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    Name calling doesn't impress me, my stats haven't begun to be challenged. It would be easier if you'd admit your agenda and that you consider denial a river in Egypt.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Name calling doesn't impress me, my stats haven't begun to be challenged. It would be easier if you'd admit your agenda and that you consider denial a river in Egypt.
    What agenda? The only person who has an agenda here is you. You have some sort of anti gay agenda which is incredibly apparant by your absolute refusal to acknowledge arguments which challenge your views. I'll present the post again...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1058449658

    Have at it. Why are you afraid? You are on a debate forum but refuse to debate.

    You are only here to preach and its pathetic.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Does it "challenge" these stats too? Because, stats that I could fill these pages with all day prove whose argument here is pretending denial is an Egyptian river.

    "Both measures tacitly accept the father's absence from the home and
    seek to ameliorate its consequences by increasing the income available
    to mother and child. However, it requires an increase in family income
    of approximately $50,000 to counter the father's absence," the
    economists wrote in a report outlining the results of their study,
    which were presented at the Western Economics Association meeting in
    San Francisco on July 1.

    Phillips and Comanor designed their study to account for the influence
    of income, and found that in the case of boys, a minimum of $54,000 in
    additional family income is necessary to counter the harmful effects
    of absent fathers. For girls, the figure is much lower -- $17,000 a year.
    The researchers also found that while absent mothers have a negligible
    impact on male adolescent delinquency, motherless homes are 56 percent
    more likely to result in teen pregnancy among girls.

    "The absence of either parent has a significant effect on the kids
    having one kind of pathology or another, but the absence of a father
    tends to have a more significant effect, and it seems to more
    seriously affect the sons,
    " said Phillips, whose research also
    indicates that step-fathers may in fact contribute to the problem.

    "The effect of the presence or absence of moms and dads on
    childbearing at a young age among girls are more equal than their
    effect on delinquency by boys."
    Kids twice as likely to be JDs, teen moms if father not in home

    Facts are facts.
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