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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Homosexual citizens often make a career out of defining themselves, most couldn't care less. Define yourself all you'd like, define marriage in your own light unti your heart is content....and everyone else will as well. And if you don't like the consensus.....
    Yes, if we don't like the consensus, we work to get that changed. Deal with it.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    If you are referring to the DC case when was their a vote?

    No, and that is the point. Shouldn't there be one?


    Maybe the same thing that happened in the Loving vs Virginia case where 70% nation supported anti miscegenation laws.

    This has nothing to do with race. homosexuals are not a race of people.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    If you are referring to the DC case when was their a vote? If you are referring to the CA situation who knows what will happen eventually? Maybe the same thing that happened in the Loving vs Virginia case where 70% nation supported anti miscegenation laws.
    There was no vote. NO vote whatsoever.

    DC is a very liberal city. I see the people in this city supporting gay marriage.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, and that is the point. Shouldn't there be one?
    I really don't think rights issues should be put to a vote.





    This has nothing to do with race. homosexuals are not a race of people.

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    It is an example of a rights issue.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I really don't think rights issues should be put to a vote.
    And Constitutionally, they aren't supposed to be put to a vote. That's why anti-gm advocates try their hardest to ridiculously assert that it isn't a rights issue.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    It wouldn't affect me in the least.
    You certainly have a lot to say about an issue that doesn't "affect you in the least"

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Ok, let me clear something up before I get labeled here. I personally don't care if homosexuals get married. My wife is a graphic designer, that has worked among many gay people, and two of our closest friends back in Maryland were gay, and committed to each other for some 20 years, and raised a beautiful hetro daughter.

    But what we are talking about here is the process, by which it becomes acceptable to society, and therefore, law of the land. I think that the homosexual community is doing itself a great disservice by forcing this issue down the throat of those too closed minded to see what the real questions are.

    Visitation, Last will rights, benefits in the workplace, all valid concerns for the committed gay couple. However, letting their concerns get hijacked by the loudmouths in their movement is hurting them.


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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    There was no vote. NO vote whatsoever.

    DC is a very liberal city. I see the people in this city supporting gay marriage.
    Also a city high in minority numbers, so, why would you see support? For example, in California, black men voted 70% against same sex marriage, 75% of black women voted against same sex marriage. Those are whopping numbers, this op has an opinion on why.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/29/opinion/29blow.html

    As well, Hispanic populations will become the dominant minority if they haven't already and many who are fiercly Catholic oppose same sex marriage as was the case in NY.

    New York: Defeat on Same-Sex 'Marriage' Bill - Catholic Online

    However, those anticipations were dashed by a coalition of eight Democrats led by Sen. Ruben Diaz, Sr. (D-NY 32), the leader of the Senate fight against same-sex "marriage," who joined every member of the GOP caucus in a conscience vote against the bill.

    Debate began after a short noon recess with Sen. Duane arguing that this "legislation would provide me and tens of thousands of other New Yorkers equal rights in New York State."

    Delivering the final speech before the vote, Duane appeared confident of victory and pressed fellow Senators to vote for the bill since, "It's always the time to be on the right side of history!"

    Only Sen. Diaz spoke on the floor of the Senate against same-sex "marriage." The Senator and Evangelical minister, indefatigable in his fight against same-sex "marriage," rallied 20,000 Hispanics over the summer in support of natural marriage, forged a broad religious coalition to oppose the bill, and even sacrificed with his wife a cruise celebrating their wedding anniversary in order to attend a special legislative session called by Gov. Paterson, where same-sex "marriage" could have been called to a vote.

    Diaz mentioned that adherents of the world's major religions - not just Evangelicals - oppose same-sex "marriage," including Jews, Muslims, and Catholics. Diaz specifically praised those Catholic bishops who signed the Manhattan Declaration as a testament of their opposition to same-sex "marriage."

    He proposed that the Senate instead should let New Yorkers decide on same-sex "marriage" through a referendum
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    I don't believe these findings can support your assertation that DC would support same sex marriage. Highly transient, much of the population minority, I think it goes down in flames.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Yes, if we don't like the consensus, we work to get that changed. Deal with it.
    We are dealing with it. IN California, in New York, hopefully by referendum in DC, the answer in referendum by a 31-0 record is a resounding and overwhelming no.

    Remember, after the elections, it's not those opposed to ssm that are harboring hate. We hear about "lies and deceit", the radical or religious right and their agenda, 1000 or more excuses are used. When in reality, the vast number of persons in the US and even state by state oppose same sex marriage. Deal with that.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I placed in bold the important part and the reason why either GM or gay civil marriage should be legalized.
    It's the part I've always thought was important. Whether or not gay marriage (recognized by the state) makes for a better society is what's at the heart of the debate.

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