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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Warspite View Post
    No, traitor to a certain Republic that was founded in 1776 Common Era in opposition to tyranny such as you so ardently support.
    So....had the Supreme Court or some Executive ruled say......that guns couldn't be owned by the citizenry....and I mentioned that to outlaw guns, we'd need a COnstitutional change....that no Exec or Robe could make that decision....would I be a traitor as well?

    Oops. Your silly argument destroyed by a single example. Here's where I say....next in line please.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    This is what Charles does, though. He has spent this entire thread misrepresenting, avoiding all the arguments and points that prove him wrong (he still hasn't given any indication that he understands the difference between sexual orientation and sexual behavior, nor has he addressed all the links and evidence I provided), and making completely illogical arguments. It's all he's got in his bag of tricks. This is why his position has been so thoroughly demolished and why he cannot respond to issues presented.
    It is to be expected. His main argument is based on the completely unsubstantiated and refuted belief that both genders need to be present within a family for children to be raised correctly. If he doesn't have that, then he has nothing and he knows it, so he will ignore any evidence to the contrary of that belief and will distort any evidence he can to support his view. Once I realized that much, I understood how pathetic his position was, and I lost my desire to debate him. That level of irrationality borders on delusion and the fact that he has visions of a grand "gay agenda" which he will not disclose the details of is further proof of the lunacy.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Not giving children all they deserve is a mortal sin in my religion is what I wrote, please read carefully.
    Oops, there it is.

    That's what it all comes down to. Your concept of God, your reading of the bible is right, and everyone else is wrong...

    I am always fascinated how a single text gets so distorted and misrepresented. The core message of Jesus is love and tolerance. Anything less is moving AWAY from what He wants for you. It's so simple. Yet we allow our own fears and insecurities to blind us.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Debating doesn't apply to process. If you don't like HOW I'm getting my points across, it's irrelevant. I am getting points acorss, my points stand up there like Rudolph's antlers and the fact that you two cannot address the content...but would like to fault process instead..is quite telling.

    Means you're losing the argument.
    Ah no, process is key in debating. Obviously you have never participated in an actual debate (one which is being adjudicated) or you would know otherwise.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    So....had the Supreme Court or some Executive ruled say......that guns couldn't be owned by the citizenry....and I mentioned that to outlaw guns, we'd need a COnstitutional change....that no Exec or Robe could make that decision....would I be a traitor as well?

    Oops. Your silly argument destroyed by a single example. Here's where I say....next in line please.
    Nope, you wouldn't - however, the above are examples of different types of tyranny, rather than the tyranny by majority you support. There is a reason why this is not a democracy, but a democratic republic - I know it, the Founders knew it, the question is do you know it.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Debating doesn't apply to process. If you don't like HOW I'm getting my points across, it's irrelevant. I am getting points acorss, my points stand up there like Rudolph's antlers and the fact that you two cannot address the content...but would like to fault process instead..is quite telling.

    Means you're losing the argument.
    You really have no clue on how this game is played do you?

    As has been pointed out repeatedly here, you have no concept of LOGIC or how it works, this post underscores it even more.

    There is a process to EVERY debate, it is called logic, it applies to any and all arguments, and if your position does not follow the LAWS of logic, your position is invalid.

    There are no gray areas with logic, it is as clear cut and irrefutable as 2+2=4

    Virtually all of your positions are in violation with the rules of the game, so matter how much you want lengthy back and forth arguments nitpicking and addressing every nuance to everything you have posted, there is no need to do so in the minds of virtually everyone participating in this thread, since in general they are easily dismissed and brushed aside as invalid, and using your word here, irrelevant.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Attorney Cleta Mitchell said that after Fenty signs the bill and it goes to Congress, the group will ask a district elections board to put a referendum on the ballot asking voters to overturn it. She said in a statement before the vote that the law is a "decision for the people, not a dozen people at city hall."


    Absolutely right.

    If the people vote it in, no problem but circumventing the people is the only way this has passed any state so far.
    SO I am assuming that you would be fine with putting all the rights/privileges that you enjoy to a popular vote as well?

    It would be fine with you if a law were passed that said "Only Jews can get married"...as long as the people voted for it right?

    How about a law that says only white people can be married? I'm assuming that you would be fine with that as well, so long as the majority of the people voted for it right?
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    SO I am assuming that you would be fine with putting all the rights/privileges that you enjoy to a popular vote as well?

    It would be fine with you if a law were passed that said "Only Jews can get married"...as long as the people voted for it right?

    How about a law that says only white people can be married? I'm assuming that you would be fine with that as well, so long as the majority of the people voted for it right?
    For the third time, Sic Semper Tyrannis to the majority.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Warspite View Post
    For the third time, Sic Semper Tyrannis to the majority.
    I agree....that's where these people are completely hypocritical and wrong.

    They are fine with putting "other " people's rights to a popular vote...but would scream and hollar if anyone dared put their rights to the same vote.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I agree....that's where these people are completely hypocritical and wrong.

    They are fine with putting "other " people's rights to a popular vote...but would scream and hollar if anyone dared put their rights to the same vote.
    And they also have the gall to bitch about how anti-tyranny they are.

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