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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

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    Opinions are like noses, everyone has one. My links are relevant and appropriate and destroy the error-prone arguments being submitted in here. Some of them are downright disingenuous.
    It is unfortunate that you have not posted one relevant fact in this entire debate. Like I've said, your errors cannot be measured by modern technology.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

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    That is another argument, one you would lose just as handily as you have lost this one.
    Would one of the arguments in this topic be that the cause of the suicides is not being gay, but societal impact on gays?
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    My mother explained it to me thus when I asked her many years ago. When she realized she was gay, she knew it was going to involve some pretty harsh times, but enduring those was better than enduring what she was not. Would any one choose to be treated as trash? Would any one choose to risk job and house and church and friends if they did not have to? She knew she would probably lose her job, probably not be allowed back to her church, probably lose friends, probably lose her kids, none of those things would she have chosen if she did not have to. There was no choice, there simply was being what she was. Thankfully, the world has changed and gays are much more accepted, and she is very happy and well adjusted in who she is.
    That's a good analogy.

    The problem is religious society expects people like your mom to "fake it" or pretend to be something else, which is contradictory to what religious leaders would advocated. Its a vicious circle for anti-homosexuals and they don't even know it.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    There are no comparison studies and as homosexuals do not reproduce. 'Gay' parents either conceived this child in a heterosexual relationship(in most cases this is true), or are the step parent. And we need not compare, the most adjusted, the best way we now how to raise children..is within marriage where two people reproduce and care and are involved with their children. Any other situation be it step parent, single parent, gay parent, isn't the best foot forward, sorry, it's just not.
    Now, this is where you either demonstrate that you have refused to read the thread, you have lied, or you have no idea what you are discussing. Links that I provided have completely destroyed your line of reasoning. There are plenty of comparison studies between gay and straight parents, and they show that children do as well in one as they do in the other. Conclusively. Let's see you show one legitimate study that shows something different.



    I've shown what happens when you remove the male from the home. And it's not pretty. Your arguments would like to purposefully remove the male from the home.....replace with a female...and pretend it's the same. It's not. Sorry.
    You've shown this in the context of single parent households. Not relevant to the discussion. Sorry.



    That's right and EVERYONE pay attention...this is the crux, children are raised just as well...and just as bad. The step parent higher risk as far as abuse goes.....carries to 'gay' families as well, correct? The atrocity of not having a male father in the home......comes with equal risk......the error of not having a female mother in the home...comes with equal risks, yes...yes...yes.

    Exactly right....'gay' families situations are the same, the abuse, the emotional neglect, the questions as to why one's natural parents aren't still together, many go looking for a lost or abandoned parent, many purposefully avoid that parent for what may be obvious reasons, yes....all the risks involved that effect heterosexual families and lead to undue crime, withering abuse stats, sexual abuses, and emotional challenges. And all of the rules and stats I've linked to very much apply to 'gay' couples as well....right? Their raised just as stable...and just as unstable...correct.

    Unless you're going to argue these relationships are somehomw 'different?' That the stats showing no male in the home don't apply. That somehow...two females can father a boy, for example. You...wouldn't be trying to argue that would you?
    Wrong. As usual. I challenge you to show legitimate studies that show that children of gay parents do not do as well as those from straight parents.

    And I have had about enough of your trolling. Links have been provided, so when you say there is no comparison studies, you are lying and damaging this thread. I posted links to 12 studies. If you continue to ignore this fact, it is akin to saying "I've never seen you post 2+2=4", when I posted 2+2=4. If you keep doing this, I will thread ban you for trolling. Consider that an official warning. Now, deny the links exist so you can bow out of this colossal defeat that you have brought on yourself, gracefully.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Funny you berate him by claiming he needs to take a statistics class when you have failed miserably to defend the position he is arguing against.

    He has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that households without a mother and father have a negative effect on the child. Study after study proves that.

    You and others like you have failed miserably to provide even one study that proved 2 people of the same gender can make up for either a mother or father absence.

    Until you can do that, stop the flagrant hypocrisy and prove your argument has merit. Remember, it is your side that wants to change the law. I hope you are one of the few who understands this.
    The two are not comparable because his studies only address families with single parent households. If they discussed two parent gay households, he would have a point. Because they don't he has none.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Consider that an official warning. Now, deny the links exist so you can bow out of this colossal defeat that you have brought on yourself, gracefully.
    Oh come on now ...

    I agree he's limp debater but warning him? Everyone on this forum does what did. [/broadgeneralization]


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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    After your "double the income argument", you didn't expect anyone to be back. Hold on a second.....that is brilliant...

    Two incomes...doubles the income of the family! Amazing! Why not commune with three, why not four parents wouldn't the argument be this would quadruple income and therefore benefit the child.

    Pretend all you'd like that gender makes no difference, pretend purposely removing the mother or father is a positive or has no effect. You're all dead on wrong, you couldn't be more wrong. Searching your childhoods, your father could have been replaced? Your mother?

    By this theory, a man could leave his wife but take the three year old daughter with him, never have a woman live in the home again...and it not affect the child as long as his boyfriend moves in with him?

    You're all dreaming, in my opinion your arguments sound agenda driven, and you all seem to think denial is a river in Egypt.

    It ain't.
    And yet... you've got nothing to prove anything you said. Only studies that have nothing to do with two parent gay households.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Oh come on now ...

    I agree he's limp debater but warning him? Everyone on this forum does what did. [/broadgeneralization]
    No, they do not. If someone refuses to acknowledge that something has been posted, when it has, that is trolling. Clearly. Look at texmaster. He acknowledged it. I may not agree with him, but he is not trolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, they do not. If someone refuses to acknowledge that something has been posted, when it has, that is trolling. Clearly. Look at texmaster. He acknowledged it. I may not agree with him, but he is not trolling.
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    Re: DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    That's a rather narrow view. Child rearing is only one of many interests the state has in marriage. Some examples of others include an interest related to procreation (illegitamacy, incest) and familial support (including spousal support). Advocates of same-sex marriage often cite a state interest in public health - asserting that monogamous relationships reduce the transmission of disease.
    A state sanctioned document doesn't stop spousal abuse, nor does it ensure monogamy. Lack of that document doesn't prevent siblings from having sex, nor does it excuse a parent from child support.

    So what's the point in continuing with this state sanctioned discrimination?

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