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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Does global warming equate to cold weather no longer existing? I would think it would be called "global warm" at that point as the world would no longer be warmING.

    The black and white nature that opponents of global warming interpret weather is quite ludicrous.

    "OMG it's cold today that means that global warming is false!"
    Yes, opponents of global warming are quite ludicrous.

    People opposed to being stampeded off an economic and societal cliff by proponents of AGW, a known scientific hoax, are sensible and cautious.

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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I don't know and don't care. I don't believe in the apocalyptic theories spewed by Global Waring supporters. I haven't seen any strong evidence to show that C02 increase will have any significant impact. I do however believe in lowering C02 levels since we are able to to advert any possible risk. I see no negative effects of making things more energy efficient where we can. Why not do it if we are capable of doing it and avoid any theorized risks?
    Since there is no demonstrated risk, the reduction in greenhouse gas emissions must be done voluntarily by the individual consumer via the machinations of the free market, not commanded by force from our masters.

    That's why we shouldn't enact any stupid GHG treaties or legislation.

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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it is your claim that junk science is being used

    it is noted that you are unable to provide anything* showing junk science is behind the global warming concerns

    *nothing other than your backward, flat-earth opinion
    Any science that deliberately seeks to provoke fear and ignorance by conspicuously concentrating on compounded unlikely worst-case scenarios and ignoring the fact that the proposed theories don't reflect known trends and history is junk. Since this is exactly what the "global warming oops it's cooling I mean global climate change" hoaxers are doing, it's clear AGW is purest junk.

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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    then identify for us the science which provides proof that there is no global warming

    The issue isn't about "global warming" or "global cooling"....which by the way, the planet's been in a cooling phase for a solid decade from the recent local maxima shown in 1998....which wasn't the warmest year in that century, that honor falls to 1938.

    The issue is what influence human activity has on global climate.

    Given that the promoters of AGW theory have to hide their data and lie, and given that AGW theory consistently fails to predict things like the current cooling trend, the issue is really "why the hell are we wasting time and money on these charlatan AGW people?"

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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    obama will still go, tho any real accomplishment there would be impossible even if talks weren't already broken down

    he just returned from another disneyland excursion to scandinavia, didn't he?

    the chance of anything substantial ever coming from one of these gab fests, which probably contribute more to warming simply due to hot air released, is always nil

    there's no global enforcement

    all the nations are directed by realpolitik

    emphasis on the "real"

    copenhagen always was nothing more than pure fantasy

    worthy of another bad al gore poem

    yet obama will go

    more and more ridiculous

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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    THAT statement right there, says it all.

    From the True Believers of the house of Gore to the so called scientist that run this.

    Did Albert Einstein demand consensus for his Theories? No, he laid down the gauntlet and said "Find what's wrong here".
    Mr. Vic... That is the New Science, which accompanies our New Politics.

    Neither can be challenged.

    It's called Change... sucker. Change whether you like it or not, whether it works or not, whether it is true or not, and regardless of history's lessons.

    Kinda Kool if you're one of the arrogant elites capable of force feeding your illusion on the masses. Not.

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    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    BBC News - Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Finally, some good news out of Copenhagen!
    Yeah, Vicchio, the African nations left for less than 90 minutes. Was is a walk-out or did they just break for lunch?

    see what happens when you jump on a non-story too fast.

    I thought you learned your lesson with those hacked emails.

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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Yeah, Vicchio, the African nations left for less than 90 minutes. Was is a walk-out or did they just break for lunch?

    see what happens when you jump on a non-story too fast.

    I thought you learned your lesson with those hacked emails.
    Are you still reading Air America's blog and gore tweets?

    The divide between rich and poor boiled over Monday when negotiators for the Group of 77 -- which represents developing countries as well as large emerging economies such as Brazil, India and China -- walked out of the negotiations in the morning.

    They returned to the conference later in the day, but the underlying issues remained unsolved, Swedish Minister Andreas Carlgren said. This prompted a suspension in the official negotiation, and the chairman of the conference appointed two ministers to pursue consultation on how to solve the problem.

    China, the world's biggest greenhouse-gas emitter, is casting the talks as a referendum on what it calls the developed world's failure to clean up its act. Rich countries should "honor the commitments they have made" in the past, said Li Ganjie, China's vice minister of environmental protection.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1260...LEFTTopStories
    Last edited by Renae; 12-15-09 at 01:21 AM.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Are you still reading Air America's blog and gore tweets?

    Tensions Increase as Poor Nations Stage a Protest - WSJ.com
    No, Vicchio, just giving you an update on the 'suspended' talks.

    They were already back at the table by the time you posted.

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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    and humming along harmoniously, clearly

    swaying in sweet unison---kumbaya

    LOL!

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