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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's the whole redistribution of wealth thing. It's what global warming is erally all about.
    I concur. I fail to see how throwing money at poor, overpopulated, resource deficent countries will in any way alleviate atmospheric warming. If the developed nations reduce their economies productivity by ceasing energy intensive processes like mining, manufacturing, smelting etc and deliberately throw themselves into a recession where is the money that teh underdeveloped nations are clamouring for going to come from? Heck, we already have a precarious global economy and the West is haemorraging jobs to India and China already.

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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    I concur. I fail to see how throwing money at poor, overpopulated, resource deficent countries will in any way alleviate atmospheric warming. If the developed nations reduce their economies productivity by ceasing energy intensive processes like mining, manufacturing, smelting etc and deliberately throw themselves into a recession where is the money that teh underdeveloped nations are clamouring for going to come from?

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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    And, let me guess, you think 'cold weather' means no global warming?

    Those PR firms working for big energy and coal companies sure earn their fees.
    Name one....

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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You see there is the loop hole.



    Total crap. Developing countries don't have nukes.
    Possession of nuclear weapons is not a criteria for whether or not a nation is developing or not. But in a magical universe apart from reality I guess India and China aren't developing countries and aren't mostly poor and agrarian.

    Let me guess, you think that a theory based on manipulated data sets, and trotted out there as some doomsday scenario, when in reality it is nothing more than a political, Marxist take over of the world is all true don't you?
    You mean the entire scientific community of planet earth was swayed by bad data and, there is in fact a communist plot behind this.

    Very american of you. Don't wake up.

    Why are the data sets used to formulate this hypothesis that the earth is warming due to man's emission of CO2 now not available?
    You mean all the evidence for global warming comes from one source? The communist source thats been manipulated right?


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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What I don't get in all of this is the insistance that "developing" countries are immune from the standards. Rather the industrialized countries are hit hard with regulation while "developing" countries are left off the hook. If it's a global problem, then it's a global problem and all countries have to do something about it. As it currently stands, none of this actually addresses the "problem" of global warming or environmental effects. But rather pushes jobs and manufacturing out of countries held to tight standards and into countries whom are exempt. The result would be more pollution, not less; and thus nothing is accomplished. If we view this as a global problem which must be addressed, then the standards need to be applied equally to all.
    Wrong..... the agenda is to spread the wealth from those countries that have made a success of themselves, to countries that have done nothing, that's what Global Warming is all about.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Does global warming equate to cold weather no longer existing? I would think it would be called "global warm" at that point as the world would no longer be warmING.

    The black and white nature that opponents of global warming interpret weather is quite ludicrous.

    "OMG it's cold today that means that global warming is false!"
    Of course if it's really hot today, that just validates the argument.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Did you ever think because of the asymmetric nature of the economic benefit that the globalism and the free market provide to nations tends to favor the already developed nations explaining the conservative or authoritarian economic tendencies of these countries: see: Chavez. Maybe the developing nations would be able to develop properly if the developed nations didn't exist? for themselves? Don't you think the nature of trade between developed and undeveloped nations causes a form of dependancy?

    Am I just too neo-marxist?

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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    The Kyoto Treaty was formed using junk science, it needs to be recinded....
    It should have never been signed in the first place....
    ok, show us the science that disproves the global warming data

    something credible

    until then you may as well try to convince us the earth is flat

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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    ok, show us the science that disproves the global warming data

    something credible

    until then you may as well try to convince us the earth is flat

    It is not for anyone else to "dis" prove your claims, but the onus is on you to prove your own claims.


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    Re: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended'

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Possession of nuclear weapons is not a criteria for whether or not a nation is developing or not. But in a magical universe apart from reality I guess India and China aren't developing countries and aren't mostly poor and agrarian.



    You mean the entire scientific community of planet earth was swayed by bad data and, there is in fact a communist plot behind this.

    Very american of you. Don't wake up.
    All of them?.... the entire scientific community?.... Really?

    We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.

    There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.

    This petition has been signed by over 31,000 American scientists.
    Home - Global Warming Petition Project



    Signatories are approved for inclusion in the Petition Project list if they have obtained formal educational degrees at the level of Bachelor of Science or higher in appropriate scientific fields. The petition has been circulated only in the United States.

    The current list of petition signers includes 9,029 PhD; 7,157 MS; 2,586 MD and DVM; and 12,714 BS or equivalent academic degrees. Most of the MD and DVM signers also have underlying degrees in basic science.
    Global Warming Petition Project

    Hmmmmm..... seems there is a few sceptics still out there.

    You mean all the evidence for global warming comes from one source? The communist source thats been manipulated right?


    you guys make me rofl
    Last edited by Crunch; 12-14-09 at 05:47 PM.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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