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    Re: Houston, Texas elects first openly gay mayor

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Please explain this statement as I'm unaware of this having taken place.
    How can you be unaware? The radical right has been demonizing homosexuals for the last two decades. They have been perpetuating the myth of the gay mafia, the gay agenda, the gay lifestyle to try to scare people about gay people.
    The reality is....it does work. All you have to look at is the money that the right-wing, namely the Mormons spent in California during prop 8 to spread their lies and alter the election. It was one of the dirtiest and most deceitful campaigns that I have seen in my life.
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    Re: Houston, Texas elects first openly gay mayor

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The "demonization" of gay people that the right-wing has tried to perpetuate is beginning to crumble. As more and more people in the United States actually know gay people, they are seeing that the myths and deceptions are just that. This is why the poll numbers have shifted dramatically in the last decade.
    Despite its history of prejudice and discrimination, The United States usually gets it right eventually. It sometimes just takes longer than it should.
    I hope to see the United States get it right about marriage equality in my lifetime.

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    Re: Houston, Texas elects first openly gay mayor

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    How can you be unaware? The radical right has been demonizing homosexuals for the last two decades. They have been perpetuating the myth of the gay mafia, the gay agenda, the gay lifestyle to try to scare people about gay people.
    The reality is....it does work. All you have to look at is the money that the right-wing, namely the Mormons spent in California during prop 8 to spread their lies and alter the election. It was one of the dirtiest and most deceitful campaigns that I have seen in my life.
    Are you new to politics or something?
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    Re: Houston, Texas elects first openly gay mayor

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    I hope to see the United States get it right about marriage equality in my lifetime.
    There's not a doubt in my mind that it will be legal in many of the states if not the country as a whole within the next decade. A lot sooner than I ever thought would be possible.
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    Re: Houston, Texas elects first openly gay mayor

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Are you new to politics or something?
    No...I've seen many dirty campaigns on boths sides of the aisle. That said...I have never seen anything on the level of deceit and money that was thrown out by the Mormons and other right-wing organizations to pass prop 8 in California.
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    Re: Houston, Texas elects first openly gay mayor

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    How can you be unaware? The radical right has been demonizing homosexuals for the last two decades. They have been perpetuating the myth of the gay mafia, the gay agenda, the gay lifestyle to try to scare people about gay people.
    The reality is....it does work. All you have to look at is the money that the right-wing, namely the Mormons spent in California during prop 8 to spread their lies and alter the election. It was one of the dirtiest and most deceitful campaigns that I have seen in my life.

    You're forgetting the role played by the black churches in that vote. Geraldo suggested a couple of days ago the latino vote was responsible for the failure of a similar law in new york just recently. What these votes mean is there is a majority opinion in this country that rejects the efforts of the democratic party and it's current liberal/leftist leadership to continue it's efforts at gaining political advantage from identity politics.


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    Minority influence is a central component of identity politics. Minority influence is a form of social influence, which takes place when a majority is being influenced to accept the beliefs or behavior of a minority. Unlike other forms of influence this usually involves a personal shift in private opinion. This personal shift in opinion is called conversion. This type of influence is most likely to take place if the minority is consistent, flexible and appealing to the majority.
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    Re: Houston, Texas elects first openly gay mayor

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You have a source? I am not seeing anything that backs up this claim of yours either, which seems to be a pattern. There is no way to know for sure the reason, but there is a definite correlation, which is what I am claiming.

    And how you doing sourcing your claim that gays "are not created, to believe so is a fallacy"?
    Not only did you not read my response to you in that thread, you didn't even read the article you claim is your "proof"

    But as Savic herself acknowledges, the study can't say whether the brain differences are inherited, or result from abnormally high or low exposure in the womb to sex hormones such as testosterone.


    How embarrassing you have to be shown what is in the very article you claim is evidence.
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    Re: Houston, Texas elects first openly gay mayor

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    How can you be unaware? The radical right has been demonizing homosexuals for the last two decades. They have been perpetuating the myth of the gay mafia, the gay agenda, the gay lifestyle to try to scare people about gay people.
    The reality is....it does work. All you have to look at is the money that the right-wing, namely the Mormons spent in California during prop 8 to spread their lies and alter the election. It was one of the dirtiest and most deceitful campaigns that I have seen in my life.
    So then what happen in Maine then huh I know but I will wait to see what BS you come up with. Oh and for the record it wasn't the Radical Right nor the Mormans that caused prop 8 to fail it was the Black Church and Latino Churchs that where the major reason for Prop 8 to fail just like your discussion here it failed.

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    Re: Houston, Texas elects first openly gay mayor

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    So then what happen in Maine then huh I know but I will wait to see what BS you come up with. Oh and for the record it wasn't the Radical Right nor the Mormans that caused prop 8 to fail it was the Black Church and Latino Churchs that where the major reason for Prop 8 to fail just like your discussion here it failed.
    I don't really follow Maine politics, so I cannot really comment on that. However, it absolutely was the radical right wing and the Mormons campaign of deceit and lies that got Prop 8 passed in California. It was the lies that were financed in large part by the Mormons that misled many Black and Latino church goers as well as others. Expose those lies and Prop 8 would have failed by double digits.

    That said....its only a matter of time. The polls are shifting dramatically.
    What I though was a possibility at some point in my life, is something that now is inevitable within a very short time. There is no way that the radical right can continue to mislead the majority with their lies with the changing demographics and Americans becoming more and more educated and tolerant.
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    Re: Houston, Texas elects first openly gay mayor

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    How can you be unaware? The radical right has been demonizing homosexuals for the last two decades. They have been perpetuating the myth of the gay mafia, the gay agenda, the gay lifestyle to try to scare people about gay people.
    The reality is....it does work. All you have to look at is the money that the right-wing, namely the Mormons spent in California during prop 8 to spread their lies and alter the election. It was one of the dirtiest and most deceitful campaigns that I have seen in my life.
    What was the greater disappointment for you? The fact that the "right" used lies to defeat ssm...or that so many people believed these horrendous lies and voted against it? You can lead a horse to water....you cannot make him actually drink. Why would so many people vote against this in a deep dark blue state where the 'right' has such a limited voice on every other issue?

    Truth is, with all the facts known and the issue right there on the table for all to see, same sex marriage is absolutely crushed everywhere it's appropriately given to voters. Might it occur to you that most people in California legitimately oppose same sex marriage?
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