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    Re: Tons of weapons seized from plane at Thai airport

    Well it looks like the Thia Military just got some new Weapons and the Thia Airforce has got themselves a new Il-76K to add to the Transport Wing. But if it was me I would scrap the Il-76 since they don't have such a great safety record.

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    Re: Tons of weapons seized from plane at Thai airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    The problem with North Korea is Kim Jong Il is he's still breathing, and the problem with China is there are too damn many of them to fight a war of attrition with.

    Nuclear options are not part of any sane strategy by us the Russians or the Chinese because everyone knows if that balloon ever goes up everyone on earth can be caught in the cross fire that would occur. Russia suffers from modern technology envy because their infrastructure is so badly decayed and in serious need of repair.

    China has been playing catchup like mad and we have been helping them by providing the funding they have used to build up and modernize their military and they have been using that same money to loan to us because we are too stupid to run the Country like a business.

    North Korea needs to be dealt with covertly and in such a way that it looks like it was from within, leaving us with plenty of room for plausible deniability should those carrying out the plan be caught.
    Some stupid President in the past created an order about not taking out the bad guys. But we do it with the Predator strikes. If I were in charge that would be quietly covertly rescinded and only a hand full of trusted people know about it.
    When National security is at stake or as in the case of a nuclear and other weapons of mass destruction proliferation needs to be dealt with, it need to be done quickly and with not fan fair.

    I said long before North Korea set off their first A-bomb they should have had an accidental detonation that would have taken out most of the radical leadership and all of their scientists. We could have shown so much sympathy it would bring a tear to ones eye.

    I can see the headlines. "U.S. morns along with the entire Nation of North Korea over the lose of so many in this tragic accident" boo hoo.

    Now we need some accidents for a number of people who threaten us and world peace. Planes go down mysteriously over the ocean all the time, and we recently missed chances at Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Moammar Kadafi, and Hugo Chavez.
    These guys would have made great real world test subjects for that 747 with the killer Lazarm in the nose and would leave no trace other than burn marks and that could be chalked up to a fuel tank explosion like we've all been told brought down another plane a few years ago. That worked even in the face of eye witnesses who claimed they saw a missile.

    Oh but I'm just dreaming that we had leadership with imagination and balls to do something.

    I agree with you 100 percent. If we had taken out Saddam covertly it would have saved a lot of lives and a big hit on our treasury. On the other hand did you know that officially President Ford signed executive order 11905 prohibiting the assassination of government leaders? Of course I'm sure that can easily circumvented as the CIA pretty much does whatever it pleases with impunity.

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    Re: Tons of weapons seized from plane at Thai airport

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    We can't. We shot our wad in Iraq and Afghanistan and we're broke, but more importantly even though we could put the hurt on NK, SK would be in shambles as fast as you could say launch 1, 2, 3. And we'd have to reinstate the draft which wouldn't bother me but the whining from politicians and those that wouldn't want to be drafted would be deafening. Thousands of Dick Cheneys with connections probably would have to go either.

    Our hands are tied with NK just as they are with Iran.
    NK has nuclear weapons and the aformentioned protection of china. Iraq isn't a factor here. Afghanistan isn't a factor here. They never were.
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    Re: Tons of weapons seized from plane at Thai airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    NK has nuclear weapons and the aformentioned protection of china. Iraq isn't a factor here. Afghanistan isn't a factor here. They never were.
    You're right Dutch. One you have nuclear weapons the U.S. won't touch you. That's why Iran is racing to have that capability.

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    Re: Tons of weapons seized from plane at Thai airport

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    You're right Dutch. One you have nuclear weapons the U.S. won't touch you. That's why Iran is racing to have that capability.
    True enough, and they'll get it, I'm guessing within the next two years. Look for israel to act within one and war and financial instability in the rest of the world as the price of oil skyrockets. Not a pretty scenario. I can only hope I'm wrong.
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    Re: Tons of weapons seized from plane at Thai airport

    To bad they didn't list all of the weapons besides the RPGs which I suspect are either the Type 69-I or could be PF-89 which would be a very troubling issue.

    If it the PF-89 then this means that NK has started to step up there arms suppling with stuff that can really hurt the West.

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    Re: Tons of weapons seized from plane at Thai airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    To bad they didn't list all of the weapons besides the RPGs which I suspect are either the Type 69-I or could be PF-89 which would be a very troubling issue.

    If it the PF-89 then this means that NK has started to step up there arms suppling with stuff that can really hurt the West.
    Any idea where I can get information on type of RPGs?
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    Re: Tons of weapons seized from plane at Thai airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Any idea where I can get information on type of RPGs?
    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_69_RPG]Type 69 RPG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

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    Re: Tons of weapons seized from plane at Thai airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Good ol' wiki. I should have known. The fact is I find it truly remarkable that these old soviet inspired "outdated" weapons are still being used with such effectiveness. We've even lost helicopters to the damned things. Incredible!
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    Re: Tons of weapons seized from plane at Thai airport

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We're China's #1 customer, they're not going to stand up against us.
    I, begrudgingly, agree with apdst. We're too much of an economic asset to China.


    One vantage point of these militant organizations like hizb'allah, qa'ida al-jihad, etc. is that they're radical groups of extremists hell-bent on destroying statism.

    A second vantage point, are that these are the groups that are paid to fight the proxy wars between hostile nations. Saudi Arabia fights the rebels in Yemen who get most of their resources from the Qud in Iran (same for hizb'allah, same for Jesh al mehdi in Iraq, same for some aspects of the Taliban and qa'ida al-jihad.

    I've written extensively of the anarchism embedded within these organizations, most of which stems directly from their Qutb, Mawdudi, Wahab, etc. political philosophy. But when you do objective research on the actions of the organizations you find that they are extension of the violence that used to dominate Nation-state relations.

    Interesting.
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