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    Re: Rules Of Engagement Are A Dilemma For U.S. Troops

    As mentioned earlier, several of these Rules of Engagement go back well into the George W. Bush days and do make sense. We are not there as conquering heroes, we are there attempting to buy time for the Afghanistan government to stabilize and be able to take over their own security.

    Yes some of the rules are pretty outlandish. But these are rules that make the Afghanistan people/government appear to be in control. These are rules that have been signed off by our politicians - both Republican and Democrat. It falls under the category of diplomacy. Whether they have been wise is something else altogether.

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    Re: Rules Of Engagement Are A Dilemma For U.S. Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by carlkay58 View Post
    As mentioned earlier, several of these Rules of Engagement go back well into the George W. Bush days and do make sense. We are not there as conquering heroes, we are there attempting to buy time for the Afghanistan government to stabilize and be able to take over their own security.

    Yes some of the rules are pretty outlandish. But these are rules that make the Afghanistan people/government appear to be in control. These are rules that have been signed off by our politicians - both Republican and Democrat. It falls under the category of diplomacy. Whether they have been wise is something else altogether.
    We're there to destroy the enemy and win with as little loss of American life as possible. These ROE won't accomplish that. Time to get out.
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    Re: Rules Of Engagement Are A Dilemma For U.S. Troops

    That is definitely an option that should be explored. If you agree to ROE that limit you to such an extent that you cannot function then you should pull out. And that I agree with.

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    Re: Rules Of Engagement Are A Dilemma For U.S. Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    No night or surprise searches.

    Villagers have to be warned prior to searches.

    ANA or ANP must accompany U.S. units on searches.

    U.S. soldiers may not fire at the enemy unless the enemy is preparing to fire first.

    U.S. forces cannot engage the enemy if civilians are present.

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    Troops can fire at an insurgent if they catch him placing an IED but not if insurgents are walking away from an area where explosives have been laid.

    We might as well carry out our missions without any ammunition....this is absurd.

    Only women can search women.
    This has been part of the ROE since the get go....While I was in Iraq 2005-2006 we were told it was a big no no for a man to search a woman.
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