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    Re: Rules Of Engagement Are A Dilemma For U.S. Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And they lied because they were afraid of being charged with a war crime, so he isn't lieing about three servicemen being tried for giving a prisoner a fat lip.
    So it is ok to lie to an official investigation? It's ok to obstruct justice? If they had not done this, you might have a point, but as is, they are not being prosecuted for giving some one a fat lip.
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    Re: Rules Of Engagement Are A Dilemma For U.S. Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    The thing about Vietnam was that you had soldiers ripping through villages to kill the enemy, with no regard for innocent villagers. That in turn caused the population to turn on us, making it harder, maybe impossible, to achieve victory in Vietnam.

    These new rules of engagement were thought out with the lessons of Vietnam well in mind.
    Thye South Vietnamese population didn't turn on us, unless they were already helping the enemy, which inturn made them the enemy. It's the nature of warfare.

    We can't fight this war like Vietnam. We have to fight it like WW2, or get the hell out.
    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: Rules Of Engagement Are A Dilemma For U.S. Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So it is ok to lie to an official investigation? It's ok to obstruct justice? If they had not done this, you might have a point, but as is, they are not being prosecuted for giving some one a fat lip.
    It's ok to make our soldiers so afraid of being charged with a war crime over something chicken**** that they're motivated to lie about it to cover it up rather than come right out and be honest about it?
    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: Rules Of Engagement Are A Dilemma For U.S. Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    The thing about Vietnam was that you had soldiers ripping through villages to kill the enemy, with no regard for innocent villagers. That in turn caused the population to turn on us, making it harder, maybe impossible, to achieve victory in Vietnam.

    These new rules of engagement were thought out with the lessons of Vietnam well in mind.
    No the thing about Vietnam was the whole thing would have been over in 66 if LBJ and Congress didn't stick their hands into every mission and let the USAF/US navy Attack up North.

    And these new rules weren't thought out they are trying to please the World this si a war you can't have rules of engagement. the only rules that apply to the battle field are the Geneva Accords if those don't apply they it's time that the United States with draws from the Accords.

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    Re: Rules Of Engagement Are A Dilemma For U.S. Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's ok to make our soldiers so afraid of being charged with a war crime over something chicken**** that they're motivated to lie about it to cover it up rather than come right out and be honest about it?
    Keep making excuses for soldiers breaking the law, and military regulations. It is pathetic, and sad.
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    Re: Rules Of Engagement Are A Dilemma For U.S. Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So it is ok to lie to an official investigation? It's ok to obstruct justice? If they had not done this, you might have a point, but as is, they are not being prosecuted for giving some one a fat lip.
    Do you have actual proof that they lied to an official, I have yet to read any of the charges and the Pentagon hasn't filed them in open court yet. So everything we are hearing and reading is just hearsay.

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    Re: Rules Of Engagement Are A Dilemma For U.S. Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Keep making excuses for soldiers breaking the law, and military regulations. It is pathetic, and sad.
    Get a grip, you're going way off topic.
    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: Rules Of Engagement Are A Dilemma For U.S. Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Do you have actual proof that they lied to an official, I have yet to read any of the charges and the Pentagon hasn't filed them in open court yet. So everything we are hearing and reading is just hearsay.
    Redress isn't going to let the lack of any real evidence stand in her way of knowing what really happened.
    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: Rules Of Engagement Are A Dilemma For U.S. Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Do you have actual proof that they lied to an official, I have yet to read any of the charges and the Pentagon hasn't filed them in open court yet. So everything we are hearing and reading is just hearsay.
    The charges for all three include lying(I forget the exact wording) and for I think it is 2 of the 3(might be 1, definitely not all 3) obstruction of justice.
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    Re: Rules Of Engagement Are A Dilemma For U.S. Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The charges for all three include lying(I forget the exact wording) and for I think it is 2 of the 3(might be 1, definitely not all 3) obstruction of justice.
    Care to address the rules of engagement? It is the topic-n-all.
    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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