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President Obama's Nobel Peace Prize acception speech

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December 10, 2009

Here the President explains his decision to escalate the war in Afghanistan.The concept of a Just War

But perhaps the most profound issue surrounding my receipt of this prize is the fact that I am the Commander-in-Chief of a nation in the midst of two wars. One of these wars is winding down. The other is a conflict that America did not seek; one in which we are joined by 43 other countries — including Norway — in an effort to defend ourselves and all nations from further attacks.

Still, we are at war, and I am responsible for the deployment of thousands of young Americans to battle in a distant land. Some will kill. Some will be killed. And so I come here with an acute sense of the cost of armed conflict — filled with difficult questions about the relationship between war and peace, and our effort to replace one with the other.

These questions are not new. War, in one form or another, appeared with the first man. At the dawn of history, its morality was not questioned; it was simply a fact, like drought or disease — the manner in which tribes and then civilizations sought power and settled their differences.

Over time, as codes of law sought to control violence within groups, so did philosophers, clerics and statesmen seek to regulate the destructive power of war. The concept of a "just war" emerged, suggesting that war is justified only when it meets certain preconditions: if it is waged as a last resort or in self-defense; if the forced used is proportional; and if, whenever possible, civilians are spared from violence.


In many ways, these efforts succeeded. Yes, terrible wars have been fought, and atrocities committed. But there has been no Third World War. The Cold War ended with jubilant crowds dismantling a wall. Commerce has stitched much of the world together. Billions have been lifted from poverty. The ideals of liberty, self-determination, equality and the rule of law have haltingly advanced. We are the heirs of the fortitude and foresight of generations past, and it is a legacy for which my own country is rightfully proud.

In this quote the president talks about the existence of evil in the world (kinda reminds me of an other American president president)

I know there is nothing weak, nothing passive, nothing naive in the creed and lives of Gandhi and King.

But as a head of state sworn to protect and defend my nation, I cannot be guided by their examples alone. I face the world as it is, and cannot stand idle in the face of threats to the American people. For make no mistake: Evil does exist in the world. A nonviolent movement could not have halted Hitler's armies. Negotiations cannot convince al-Qaida to lay down their arms. To say that force is sometimes necessary is not a call to cynicism — it is a recognition of history, the imperfections of man and the limits of reason.

Here is a link to the text of the presidents Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech.

Text of President Obama's Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech -- South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com
 
I liked his speech.

Except the global warming BS but his points about war and when it is justified were dead on.
 
PBO getting this award is such a joke.
 
:doh Um didn't he say that he was going to focus on this issues, and if that is, so what are y'all complaining about? :2wave: I am confused at why y'all are complaining, if he doing what he said he'd be doing?
 
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:doh Um didn't he say that he was going to focus on this issues, and if that is, so what are y'all complaining about? :2wave: I am confused at why y'all are complaining, if he doing what he said he'd be doing?

Because giving him the Nobel prize--any Nobel prize--is a joke.
 
Thought it was a bit long, but it was a good speech.
I definitely agreed with most of what he said.
 
Obama getting the Nobel Peace prize...

My faith in the world just decreased by a tiny bit. The Nobel committee means little to me anymore.
 
I just noticed that I made a mistake in the title of this thread. The word acception should have been acceptance.

I can't believe Im saying this but I liked much of this speech by President Obama, it made sense to me as a conservative. It made me feel proud to be an American. I hope he is being sincere.

As a veteran I especially liked this part of the speech.

I raise this point because in many countries there is a deep ambivalence about military action today, no matter the cause. At times, this is joined by a reflexive suspicion of America, Yet the world must remember that it was not simply international institutions — not just treaties and declarations — that brought stability to a post-World War II world. Whatever mistakes we have made, the plain fact is this: The United States of America has helped underwrite global security for more than six decades with the blood of our citizens and the strength of our arms. The service and sacrifice of our men and women in uniform has promoted peace and prosperity from Germany to Korea, and enabled democracy to take hold in places like the Balkans. We have borne this burden not because we seek to impose our will. We have done so out of enlightened self-interest — because we seek a better future for our children and grandchildren, and we believe that their lives will be better if other people's children and grandchildren can live in freedom and prosperity.

I would be intrested to hear what the liberal members of our forum think of this speech.
 
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he pissed off the norwegians big time

Nobel peace prize: Norwegians incensed over Barack Obama's snubs | World news | guardian.co.uk

he refused to lunch with their king

he cut short his visit and skipped a bunch of ceremonies

he did THAT cuz he was embarrassed at home

msnbc morning consensus (joe, mika, barnacle, allen of politico)---it's good for america, bad for obama

he's embarrassed to be seen being bowed to for nothing cuz he knows most americans are laughing at him

so he pisses off oslo

he's all over the map---suddenly he's a warrior

"there are times when nations find the use of force not only necessary but morally justified"

an entirely new, reinvented obama

he would NOT have said those words last month

nor will he be saying them in january

he's improvisational, expedient, transparent

the afghan "decision" shaped this speech

this was not his posture, for example, when he first learned he'd won

unbelievable

what a rank amateur
 
I would like to know how Hussen Obama even got the award since he was nominated on 1 February 2009 and took office 20 January 2009.......What did he do in that 10 days that got him the prize.........Oh wait the Nobel Prize committee gave Al Gore a Nobel prize..........Enough said..........
 
he pissed off the norwegians big time

Nobel peace prize: Norwegians incensed over Barack Obama's snubs | World news | guardian.co.uk

he refused to lunch with their king

he cut short his visit and skipped a bunch of ceremonies

he did THAT cuz he was embarrassed at home

msnbc morning consensus (joe, mika, barnacle, allen of politico)---it's good for america, bad for obama

he's embarrassed to be seen being bowed to for nothing cuz he knows most americans are laughing at him

so he pisses off oslo

he's all over the map---suddenly he's a warrior

"there are times when nations find the use of force not only necessary but morally justified"

an entirely new, reinvented obama

he would NOT have said those words last month

nor will he be saying them in january

he's improvisational, expedient, transparent

the afghan "decision" shaped this speech

this was not his posture, for example, when he first learned he'd won

unbelievable

what a rank amateur

Im going to defend the president. At least he was there to accept the Prize. Theodore Roosevelt was not there to accept his reward in 1905. And Woodrow Wilson was not there to accept his award in 1919. Only the loony peanut farmer showed up to accept his in 2002.

I also do not agree that he deserved the NPP. I did however like the acceptance speech. I think he said alot of things that needed to be said to the entire world.
 
yes, he said things

but they were so FALSE

coming from him
 
yes, he said things

but they were so FALSE

coming from him

Well if it makes you feel any better here is what Newt Gingrich said about the historic speech.

"I thought the speech was actually very good. And he clearly understood that he had been given the prize prematurely, but he used it as an occasion to remind people, first of all, as he said that there is evil in the world. I think having a liberal president who goes to Oslo on behalf of a peace prize and reminds the committee that they would not be free, they wouldn't be able to have a peace prize, without having force...I thought in some ways it's a very historic speech and the President I think did a very good job of representing the role of America which has been that of – at the risk of lives of young Americans – creating the fabric of security within which you could have a Martin Luther King Jr. or you could have a Mahatma Gandhi."

Sarah Palin, Michael Medved, and a slew of other conservatives liked it as well.
 
thanks

and, yes, i'm sure they liked it

but they don't trust him

very few do anymore
 
I just noticed that I made a mistake in the title of this thread. The word acception should have been acceptance.

I can't believe Im saying this but I liked much of this speech by President Obama, it made sense to me as a conservative. It made me feel proud to be an American. I hope he is being sincere.

As a veteran I especially liked this part of the speech.

First off thank you for your service but did you find it as odd as I did that this speech was delivered in Oslo but the reverse in front of our soldiers just a week earlier?
 
Diplomacy and a gun will accomplish much more than only diplomacy will.

I'm not sure exactly what your position is, but if by that you mean diplomacy backed up with a credible threat of action then I agree.

Again, I thought it was a pretty good speech. It seems strange to me that some democrats are attacking Obama for being too tough, but tough diplomacy is what Obama promised during his campaign. And some Republicans are attacking him for adopting some ideas from the Bush administration like the surge. But I would think that Republicans would be pleased that the new administration is implementing the surge because that's what the generals asked for.

I guess you can't please everyone. Personally I think Obama is doing a pretty good job so far, even though I also thought that the Nobel prize came a little too early.
 
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I would like to know how Hussen Obama even got the award since he was nominated on 1 February 2009 and took office 20 January 2009.......What did he do in that 10 days that got him the prize.........Oh wait the Nobel Prize committee gave Al Gore a Nobel prize..........Enough said..........
you do realize that he didn't get the prize just for those ten days, right?
 
you do realize that he didn't get the prize just for those ten days, right?

I think Obama will be a great president and he probably will earn the prize by the end of his first (or second) term, but I have to agree that this prize was just a little too early. I think the people in Oslo were trying to make themselves more popular in their own country by giving it to him so soon. Or trying to ingratiate themselves with Obama, I don't know.

But I won't try to justify their decision, it was silly.
 
I just noticed that I made a mistake in the title of this thread. The word acception should have been acceptance.

I can't believe Im saying this but I liked much of this speech by President Obama, it made sense to me as a conservative. It made me feel proud to be an American. I hope he is being sincere.

As a veteran I especially liked this part of the speech.



I would be intrested to hear what the liberal members of our forum think of this speech.
Even RUSH LIMBAUGH basically praised that part of his speech, but said it was a designed to help Democrats coming into an elections year. He did not care for the latter part of his speech.
 
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