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    Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Towering eight stories over wheat fields, the Golden Lamp Church was built to serve nearly 50,000 worshippers in the gritty heart of China's coal country.

    But that was before hundreds of police and hired thugs descended on the mega-church, smashing doors and windows, seizing Bibles and sending dozens of worshippers to hospitals with serious injuries, members and activists say

    Today, the church's co-pastors are in jail. The gates to the church complex in the northern province of Shanxi are locked and a police armored personnel vehicle sits outside.

    The closure of what may be China's first mega-church is the most visible sign that the communist government is determined to rein in the rapid spread of Christianity, with a crackdown in recent months that church leaders call the harshest in years.
    This is pretty ridiculous. No different than the attacks on Falun Gong members or Buddhists within Chinese territory.
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    Re: Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Perhaps off topic, but maybe interesting to some, I read an article a few months ago that China has had a resurgence of Confucianism, and is trying to use that to improve their image throughout the world. Confucianism was a pretty decent religion back in the day.

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    Re: Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Perhaps off topic, but maybe interesting to some, I read an article a few months ago that China has had a resurgence of Confucianism, and is trying to use that to improve their image throughout the world. Confucianism was a pretty decent religion back in the day.
    Confucianism isn't a religion. It is a set of values and morality standards.
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    Re: Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Well it would seem the Godless among us who claim to be Christians but believe it's okay to kill babies and the Association of Communist Lovers United (ACLU) have something to rejoice about.

    By the way Christianity is at risk here but it won't be made clear to many for a while yet, but it comes with the territory when Socialism/Marxism takes root.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Well it would seem the Godless among us who claim to be Christians but believe it's okay to kill babies and the Association of Communist Lovers United (ACLU) have something to rejoice about.

    By the way Christianity is at risk here but it won't be made clear to many for a while yet, but it comes with the territory when Socialism/Marxism takes root.
    You are wrong. I am not a Christian. I support abortion and support the ACLU. I don't support this.
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    Re: Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You are wrong. I am not a Christian. I support abortion and support the ACLU. I don't support this.
    Don't flatter yourself, I was not referring to you specifically and I find it interesting how often Liberals defend themselves from things they were not accused of. I didn't and don't see your post as supprting the Commies.

    Interesting.

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    Re: Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You are wrong. I am not a Christian. I support abortion and support the ACLU. I don't support this.
    Tell me you support CHOICE not abortion.

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    Re: Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Confucianism isn't a religion. It is a set of values and morality standards.
    Confucianism is considered to be one of the Eastern religions.

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    Re: Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Confucianism is considered to be one of the Eastern religions.
    It's as much a "religion" as Maoism, Marxism, Leninism

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    Re: Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Confucianism is not a religion. It's a set of moral precepts to guide society. It was the hierarchy that bound dynastic society. There is no such thing as a Confucian person, because it relies upon the framework of the surrounding society to function. It's how Daoists, Buddhists, and Muslims have been able to exist in China for a millennia or more yet still be part of the Confucian order.

    To the topic... it would fall under the category of religious persecution I suppose, but you have to understand that China isn't singling out Christianity. Any organization that begins to rally huge support becomes a potential threat to the government. Aside from the Communist uprising that created the PRC, the biggest rebellion in China was the Taiping rebellion in the 1860's, lead by a guy who believed himself to be the brother of Jesus Christ. Millions died and it was one of the fatal turning points that contributed to the downfall of China's final imperial dynasty.

    Religion is monitored in China for potential political instability, but it's only one aspect of society that is monitored. Parades can't even happen in the streets unless they are pro-PRC. For example, the Shanghai Pride society could not get permission from the city government to hold a parade for the first gay pride. They called it a security risk.

    This is just the way Communism operates. Everyone gets shut down, not just the Christians. And frankly, mega-churches are just financial and fanatical black holes where people can gain social and political power. I'm not saying they shouldn't have the right to exist, just saying that in politics they can be a power centre.

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