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    Re: Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    Some say Capitalism and Communism are a perfect match for each other.
    yes....which explains why the two exponents of these two ideologies had such good relations in the cold war

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    Re: Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You distort the Bible.





    Leviticus 20:9 is in the Old Testament, and although it is there for our learning, and to underscore the seriousness of the 5th commandment, it is not a practice. Another distortion to cast dispersion on Christianity no doubt.





    Again speaking of the Old Testament as if it were applicable today show a severe lack of understanding in terms of using scripture, maybe you should not attempt that?

    In any case a good summary of what you are distorting here is found surprisingly on yahoo answers....It says:






    Suppose you explain to me what scientific value abortion had at its inception as fiat law? No sir you offer distortions, and extoll others to bone up on topics? That is rich.


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    why shouldnt the bible be taken literally, certain people (i'm not saying it's you, 'cause i am unaware of that fact) take the quaran literally, and use it as a pretence to try and prove islam is a bloodthirsty religion

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    Re: Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    why shouldnt the bible be taken literally, certain people (i'm not saying it's you, 'cause i am unaware of that fact) take the quaran literally, and use it as a pretence to try and prove islam is a bloodthirsty religion

    First off, you have to understand the context of the Bible before you can ask a question like this. The Old Testament as it relates to today is good in historical reference. However, to say that you don't understand why that can not be used in literal translation is absurd. Does God smite people today? Did not his son Jesus die so that God could usher in a new era of free choice?

    To compare Christian belief to that of the Koran and those who bastardize that religion as well for the purpose of killing non believers, or infidels if you will, shows a pure lack of understanding on your part.



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    Re: Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    First off, you have to understand the context of the Bible before you can ask a question like this. The Old Testament as it relates to today is good in historical reference. However, to say that you don't understand why that can not be used in literal translation is absurd. Does God smite people today? Did not his son Jesus die so that God could usher in a new era of free choice?

    To compare Christian belief to that of the Koran and those who bastardize that religion as well for the purpose of killing non believers, or infidels if you will, shows a pure lack of understanding on your part.



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    the point i was trying to make (just realised it's sorta off topic) was that religious works from however many thousand and a bit years ago cannot be taken literaly, and can't be used as justification for present day actions.

    i was comparing the justification of acts based upon religious belief

    and as for ignorance, i'm rather well versed in some sects of christianity, and i have knowledge of islam, i think you just may have misinterpreted my point

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    Re: Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    the point i was trying to make (just realised it's sorta off topic) was that religious works from however many thousand and a bit years ago cannot be taken literaly, and can't be used as justification for present day actions.

    i was comparing the justification of acts based upon religious belief

    and as for ignorance, i'm rather well versed in some sects of christianity, and i have knowledge of islam, i think you just may have misinterpreted my point

    Ok, well, then you say in your post to me, that some "use it as a pretence to try and prove islam is a bloodthirsty religion." Did you not?


    Tell me Spud, how many Christians are using the Bible to behead captives of theirs today?


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    Re: Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, well, then you say in your post to me, that some "use it as a pretence to try and prove islam is a bloodthirsty religion." Did you not?


    Tell me Spud, how many Christians are using the Bible to behead captives of theirs today?


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    off the top of my head there's laurent nkunda in the congo, and he's alot worse than simple beheading, he's also a devout christian

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    Re: Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    off the top of my head there's laurent nkunda in the congo, and he's alot worse than simple beheading, he's also a devout christian
    So he says. The Church denounces his claim.


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    Re: Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Well it would seem the Godless among us who claim to be Christians but believe it's okay to kill babies and the Association of Communist Lovers United (ACLU) have something to rejoice about.
    I'm one of those godless people you seem to be referencing. Why, exactly, do you think that I'd believe that depriving people of the right to worship (or not worship) AS THEY PLEASE would be a good thing?

    Please at least attempt to use some rational basis when posting.

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    Re: Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Tell me you support CHOICE not abortion.
    One in the same, regardless of the language you wrap it in. If you support the aborting of one, you have the blood of them all on your hands.

    I wonder if we killed the one that would have cured cancer or brought peace to the Middle East?

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    Re: Fast-growing Christian churches crushed in China

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So he says. The Church denounces his claim.


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    So someone cannot be Christian unless The Church approves of it? It didn't know Jesus set an approval process from religious leaders before someone could become a follower.
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