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Attacked Asian Students Afraid To Go to School

Partisan said:
That's fine, you can hire them, I won't....;)
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Then you are in violation of EEO policies and deserve to be sued for every penny you are worth. It's a name. You have no ability to determine their qualification for a job based on their name.

The sad truth is that any time you hire a 'monority', you leave yourself open to all kinds of claims of harassment, discrimination, etc.....
From a business standpoint worth it, IMO.....;)
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That's the kind of attitude that undermines legitimate arguments against affirmative action. As long as there are people like you, we will have to deal with the racism discussion.
 
jallman said:
Then you are in violation of EEO policies and deserve to be sued for every penny you are worth. It's a name. You have no ability to determine their qualification for a job based on their name.
On the contrary, I might interview a few to keep up the illusion, but ultimately, their applications go right in the 'round file'....;)


That's the kind of attitude that undermines legitimate arguments against affirmative action. As long as there are people like you, we will have to deal with the racism discussion.
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I will not be forced to hire someone to fullfill a quota....;)
 
Partisan said:
I will not be forced to hire someone to fullfill a quota....;)
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That's not what you said. You said you would refuse to hire someone based on their name and implied it was because it sounded "ethnic".

You deserve to be sued for every penny you are worth. I would not hire someone like you because you would be a liability to the business.
 
jallman said:
That's not what you said. You said you would refuse to hire someone based on their name and implied it was because it sounded "ethnic".

Yes, that is correct......;)

You deserve to be sued for every penny you are worth. I would not hire someone like you because you would be a liability to the business.
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Good thing I'm the boss then....;)
 
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Well, you might say different races specialize in different forms of violence. Black people destroy neighborhoods; white people destroy entire countries and cultures. Blacks pull off Crown Heights; whites pull off the Holocaust. No, violence does not stop being violence just because it's done in police or military uniform rather than a street gang uniform.

Black people dominate drug gangs on the street level, but anyone who thinks that's all there is to the drug trade is very naive and misinformed. And black gangsters (like the white Prohibition-era gangsters before them) would largely be out of a job were it not for the idiotic War on Drugs which is mainly waged and supported by white people.

I don't feel guilty at all for being born white. That would be stupid. However, I'm not buying into this whites are innocent victims shit for one second.

The bullshit about East Asian people being by nature kind and gentle model minorities makes me sick to my stomach when it doesn't make me laugh. Tell that to a WWII veteran who experienced combat against the Imperial Japanese. Can you say sadistic torture? Mass rapes? Mass graves? Comfort women aka sex slaves? Just because they seem "law abiding" in certain contexts doesn't mean they aren't capable of releasing their pent-up repressed instincts as massive violence when the order is given. It just means in a certain sense they're more authoritarian collectivist than blacks, like whites but they take that tendency even further.
 
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jallman said:
I'm not denying that the black underclass is much larger than the white underclass but I submit that the issue is no longer disparity in opportunity and hasn't been for some time. I would submit that the issue is now a problem specific to elements in the black culture that seek to suppress a natural human desire to achieve and advance.

I'm not going to bore you with detailing the obvious culprits like affirmative action. Instead, let me focus on something a little more subtle such as the culture of their churches. Black churches are steeped in racially divisive idealogies such as Black Liberation theology. The whole concept is that blacks are still a suppressed group and need to liberate...and, I don't know about anyone here, but I've never heard of a black man or woman in shackles workin the cotton fields in my time. The entire idea is an affront to the freedom blacks achieved and it impresses upon them an idea that they are victims. That victimhood goes right out the door on Sunday morning and carries over into a feeling of hopelessness when the parishioner shows up to work Monday morning. What should be an encouragement to achieve and rise up has now become a reminder that you're just a victim. So where is the point of ambition? And then external forces like affirmative action to that and it's the elephant in the room no one wants to talk about.
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except, blacks are more likely to attend inferior schools than whites, and are less likely to have close, positive male role models.

education is an opportunity that isn't always equal.
 
reefedjib said:
I totally agree. I wish the black community had listened to Bill Cosby. I was so excited to hear what he said and then dismayed as they mounted a campaign against him. Hopefully a few heard him true.

The leaders of these black churches and other groups promoting victimization do such harm. All they are doing is making a dishonest living.
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black theology, in part, stresses personal responsibility, NOT victimhood.
 
liblady said:
except, blacks are more likely to attend inferior schools than whites, and are less likely to have close, positive male role models.

education is an opportunity that isn't always equal.
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a product of liberal domination for the past 40 years no doubt.


j-mac
 
liblady said:
if you say so.
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What has Obama done for the DC students ie: school choice?

What have the liberals promoted for 40 years concerning a stable Father in the home?

Answer those truthfully, and it is not if I say so, it is fact.


j-mac
 
liblady said:
except, blacks are more likely to attend inferior schools than whites, and are less likely to have close, positive male role models.

education is an opportunity that isn't always equal.
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And who's fault is that? Less likely to have positive male role models? Well guess what? Maybe the black community should start reinforcing dads being around for their kids instead of being the culture of "that's just my babydaddy".

Inferior schools? Instead of destroying neighborhoods with gang violence, vandalism, and drug trafficking, perhaps they should build their neighborhoods into something of value so schools have a better funding pool to draw from when the budgets is created from property tax.

Or better yet, encourage their kids to go to school, get an education, and mind their manners when dealing with others so the schools aren't blacklisted by teacher's unions as "places you might die if you teach there".

Education opportunity in this country is equal. Every family has the same access to education for their children. They may just have to make a commitment to accessing that opportunity by *gasp* making some sacrifices for the good of their children.
 
liblady said:
black theology, in part, stresses personal responsibility, NOT victimhood.
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First I have heard of it is from you. Got any evidence?


(PS. It was blowing 25 knots, gusting to 32 here the other day. Man I wanted to be out on the water!)
 
I'll tell you what really burns me about the state of the black community in the US.

I know, as well as many of you, some outstanding young black kids that are friends with my kids. One of my daughters closest friends on her soccer team is just about the greatest kid in the whole world. Her brothers are as well. Great family, dad's a cardiologist and mom's a lab tech. Work with a guy named LaKendrick (one of those names lol) that is just one heck of a guy and a tech wiz. His kids are high-achieving, super well-behaved, respectful, etc.

Those kids have to walk out into the world under a stigma that, unfortunately for them, is so prevalent and so often accurate about kids that look like them, that they have to fight it every day. They do, and they thrive, but it's aggravating for them even though they understand why.

It shouldn't be this way, but they are so vastly the exception to the rule that they have to constantly overcome it, which they do with flying colors.

But as LaKendrick (or Lake as we call him) says, "Hey, it's tough, but it can be a huge advantage, too, if you educate and polish yourself. It's so rare that you stand out." He talks about this stuff all the time unprompted.

True, but so sad.
 
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Erod said:
Replace Billybob with Tyrone, and that becomes a racist statement.
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Not to me.

I don't mind mocking white racists since that's their modus operandi with others. But thought codes, speech codes, and restrictions on free inquiry and free expression are NOT the path by which we will ever move beyond racism.
 
Erod said:
I'll tell you what really burns me about the state of the black community in the US.

I know, as well as many of you, some outstanding young black kids that are friends with my kids. One of my daughters closest friends on her soccer team is just about the greatest kid in the whole world. Her brothers are as well. Great family, dad's a cardiologist and mom's a lab tech. Work with a guy named LaKendrick (one of those names lol) that is just one heck of a guy and a tech wiz. His kids are high-achieving, super well-behaved, respectful, etc.

Those kids have to walk out into the world under a stigma that, unfortunately for them, is so prevalent and so often accurate about kids that look like them, that they have to fight it every day. They do, and they thrive, but it's aggravating for them even though they understand why.

It shouldn't be this way, but they are so vastly the exception to the rule that they have to constantly overcome it, which they do with flying colors.

But as LaKendrick (or Lake as we call him) says, "Hey, it's tough, but it can be a huge advantage, too, if you educate and polish yourself. It's so rare that you stand out." He talks about this stuff all the time unprompted.

True, but so sad.
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That's awesome that a kid can understand and articulate that concept and keep a great attitude about it.

You hit a really good point here, too. These social issues that we discuss here are jsut that...social issues. It's up to every one of us as individuals to treat everyone as an individuals despite acknowledgment of social ills present in a group.
 
Sov said:
Not to me.

I don't mind mocking white racists since that's their modus operandi with others. But thought codes, speech codes, and restrictions on free inquiry and free expression are NOT the path by which we will ever move beyond racism.
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And as stated in this thread, the most deeply seeded racism toward all races today in America is from the black community. Many blacks are unapologetic racists of the highest order.
 
Erod said:
And as stated in this thread, the most deeply seeded racism toward all races today in America is from the black community. Many blacks are unapologetic racists of the highest order.
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I can't say I agree with that, but like I said, I also disagree with attempting to fight racism through restrictions on thought and speech. That ultimately encourages the same authoritarian tendencies that go hand in hand with bigotry.
 
new coup for you said:
Attacked Asian Students Afraid To Go to School | NBC Philadelphia

Dozens of Asian students who were attacked and beaten at South Philadelphia High School last week have opted not to return to school on Monday over concerns for their safety...

...Tensions between black and Asian students at the school erupted in a series of assaults last week, leading to 10 suspensions and several students seeking medical treatment...

...School officials said last week's clashes strained efforts to improve race relations...

This story is some heinous bull**** on several levels, but before I discuss the actual issue, I want to discuss the media treatment of it.

First: "Tensions between black and Asian students"

There are no tensions "between" black and Asians. This is blacks blatantly targeting and attacking Asians, for no reason. This isn't peace keeping between two ethnic groups with legitimate grievances against each other- this is one group, the blacks, actively targeting the other group, the Asians, without provocation. There is no exchange. It's entirely one sided.

Second: "efforts to improve race relations"

Again suggesting that their needs to be some sort of "opened dialogue" between the two groups. No, blacks need to stop attacking Asians. What are the Asians supposed to do, start being less Asian? Because being Asian is their only provocation.

This story makes me furious. I spent most of my life as a white minority in black-majority schools and it was pretty ****ty, but I understand the historical consequences of whites treatments of blacks.

But I cannot even express how disgusted I am that American blacks, who have had state aid lavished upon them for decades, are treating Asian immigrants -people who have struggled without support to make a life in this country- so wretchedly.

What's even more infuriating is the school systems treatment of the issue. It took them an entire week to respond, and their response was a committee meeting. And notice that the perpetrators (the ten at least that they bothered to catch) were not charged with assault, weren't even expelled, they were just given suspensions. Meaning that they'll be back within a month, in the same school. Could it be because the entire school system is run by blacks?

I have experienced my entire life the predatory behavior of blacks against all other races in the schools of this city- and I don't think the issue is just in the city, I think it's equally true in other black-majority cities. My high school was about 30 percent white, which was enough to protect each other, but it was still a struggle. This was not racist white banding together to oppress blacks- it was white people from all over the city trying to merely protect ourselves from unrestrained black violence. I don't personally believe in reinstating systematic racism and I believe that the problems of the black community aren't necessarily inherent to black genetics (although they are inherent to black culture) but I do strongly understand how other whites (and other non-blacks) I grew up with came to those conclusions. And this article illustrates why. If blacks want to make some racist Asian skinhead gangs, this is a great way to do it. And who will be at fault?
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Asian kids are wussy nerds who play video games all day and can't put up with a little bullying. That's basically what I got. :rofl
 
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