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    Re: Attacked Asian Students Afraid To Go to School

    Typical, it has become the norm.....

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    Re: Attacked Asian Students Afraid To Go to School

    There is no such thing as reverse-racism
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    Re: Attacked Asian Students Afraid To Go to School

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    There is no such thing as reverse-racism
    Sure there is....
    If this were white on black violence, Rev's Jesse & Al would be howling for blood....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well asian isn't really a protected class in America. Kinda odd, but they're up there with white folk. Secondly, no one in the media or politics will call it what it is. Straight up near KKK style racism (near, they haven't hung anyone or burned crosses, but the sentiments are similar) perpetrated by black people. It's completely against PC rules to state the reality. Now, it's not saying that all black people are violent, racist jerks like the one's in this school. But at the same accord, I think the overall treatment and messages we send through society forgives this sort of behavior, or at the very least turns a blind eye. But if you try to turn this into any issue, you'll have Jesse Jackson and Sharpton down there in no time raising hell.
    Where's the media? Where's the outcry of support for the "South Philadelphia 23", the way there was for the "Jena 6", six blacks who actually beat someone, rather then being the victims of a racist attack (regardless of the fairness of their sentencing)?

    I would find it hilarious if a crowd of white folks were outside Al Sharpton's house with bullhorns protesting his not coming down to Philly to decry this violence.
    Or how about some Asian groups organize to deal with this? The only groups that are currently making any really effort to rectify the situation are some pretty low key local Asian groups (South Philadelphia Vietnamese groups and the China Town association). Again I have to compare the reactions between this and the "Jena 6"...six blacks actually assaulted someone and became a cause celebre among black "activists" (although I do agree with some points regarding the inappropriate severity of the sentencing) versus 23 Asians who were assaulted themselves after having to suffer in an on-going environment of racist hostility. And it's on page 2 of the local newspaper (to be fair the development of the situation was also on the cover of a local indie free weekly- weeks before this incident, in hindsight that was some excellent journalism that people should have payed more attention to).

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman
    All this could be addressed if our society would release itself from the burden of guilt for something none of us had any part in. First of all, apply these hate crimes laws to blacks just like they get applied to whites. If this was a targeting of Asians for simply being Asian, then it would only stand to reason that hate crimes legislation is applicable.

    Further, stop calling black on other ethnicity racism anything but what it is. It's racism. It isn't reverse racism, it isn't "the black experience", it isn't justified, it isn't anything more than barbarism and uncivilized just as it is when ANYONE else does it.

    We also cut all race specific social services and charities. We make everything colorblind and based on need. Also, we ridicule the "it's because I'm black" excuse to the point that it is a scarlet letter to use the excuse. We take away any chance of racially charging our legal system by forbidding such defenses. "No, you did not rob that liquor store and shoot the husband and wife running it because blacks have it so bad. You robbed that liquor store and shot those people because you are a barbaric animal and you need to be put down before you harm anyone else."

    Basically, we need to say as a society "Enough".

    There is no glass ceiling stopping blacks from achieving. Obama shattered it and there is no more "da man kept me down, yo" excuse anymore. Enough.
    I think this country's concept of racism was basically formed in reaction to the South's segregation, and it lacks a subtly required to process the racism prevalent in Northern multi-cultural cities.

    Americans are used to the paradigm of "one large minority with political control abusing a small disenfranchised minority". That scenario legitimately existed in the Jim Crow south, however in large cities lots of small minorities that are all equally disenfranchised can be quite racist towards each other.

    However, even that scenario isn't applicable here.

    Philadelphia is about 45% black (and in public schools this population is even more dominant, due to the fact that many whites in this city are Irish or Italian who typically send their kids to Catholic schools) and about 10% Asian. Furthermore, the city's mayor and much of its political establishment (excepting the police, which has consistently been dominated by Irish and Italians) is black. The head of schools and a great deal (going totally from personal experience because there aren't available statistics) of the teachers are black. So there's an argument to be made here that the kind of racism found at this high school could be somewhat compared to Jim Crow style institutional racism.

    Now, I don't think the mayor or city council is racist against Asians, and I doubt the black teachers are personally biased against Asians, however it seems totally reasonable to me that they're biased towards fellow blacks. Which I think is a major contributing factor here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Well I figure to be attacked for stating what I see as the central issues at work here.

    First; Asians have a history of going well in school and excelling in areas of math science etc. on avg.

    Second; Asian students have a low numbers of teen pregnancy, on avg.

    Third; Asians have have a very low numbers involved in the justice system and low crime rates on avg.

    Forth; Black students have a history of extremely high drop out rates and poor grades on Avg.

    Fifth; Black children have very high rates teen pregnancy on avg.

    Sixth; Black children have very high rates of involvement with the justice system on avg.

    Are these just perceptions or are they real? Well sadly they are real but cause if not because of race, in as much as one race being inherently more intelligent than another.

    It is all about culture. The major difference between the two cultures is the values placed by family on family and education, and honor. You Black children have it drummed into them almost from birth that they are victims and it's someone Else's fault and they tend to use that as an excuse to not work hard. The school system has reinforced this by lowering the standards for everyone, and this does is create poor students who don't have to do a good job to move on.

    The Family unit has been destroyed in part by a welfare system that began a long time ago to reward the break up of the family unit with more benefits.

    The reasons for attacks stem from jealousy, ignorance, frustration, lack of education, lack of hope, and misconceptions brought on by all of the above.
    This, for me, is the final outrage. Philadelphia is a city that with a decreasing population and stagnant employment. Asian immigrants that come here and start small businesses are exactly what the city needs. Al I have to say, is that as a white person, blacks are not doing themselves a favor by making me choose between them and Asians.
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    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Attacked Asian Students Afraid To Go to School

    Quote Originally Posted by New Coup For you
    This, for me, is the final outrage. Philadelphia is a city that with a decreasing population and stagnant employment. Asian immigrants that come here and start small businesses are exactly what the city needs. Al I have to say, is that as a white person, blacks are not doing themselves a favor by making me choose between them and Asians.
    Absoloutely.....

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    Re: Attacked Asian Students Afraid To Go to School

    This belongs in the Media Bias Forum.
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    Re: Attacked Asian Students Afraid To Go to School

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    This belongs in the Media Bias Forum.
    No, it is Breaking News, it might get there though....

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    Re: Attacked Asian Students Afraid To Go to School

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    Where's the media? Where's the outcry of support for the "South Philadelphia 23", the way there was for the "Jena 6", six blacks who actually beat someone, rather then being the victims of a racist attack (regardless of the fairness of their sentencing)?
    The media wouldn't touch this story with a 10 ft. poll. Probably some form of hate crime if they do.
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    Re: Attacked Asian Students Afraid To Go to School

    “It is our opinion that South Philadelphia High School is still not a safe place for us,” read the statement. “Because we are Asian immigrants, we are targeted. We have been working with the school a long time, but the school has failed to provide a concrete plan to address our safety inside and outside the building.”
    I'm frankly astounded the youths were not charged and arrested with assault. Bullying alone could get you in trouble with the police in UK as it falls under harrassment.

    I'm also surprised that a group with a history like the African Americans would be receptive to racism seeing they suffered through it enough. You'd think they would learn how much damage it causes and why do I have a sneaking suspicion if it was whites beating up blacks until they were too scared to go to school, half your country would be in uproar

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    Re: Attacked Asian Students Afraid To Go to School

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I'm also surprised that a group with a history like the African Americans would be receptive to racism seeing they suffered through it enough. You'd think they would learn how much damage it causes
    No offense, but that's very naive. Blacks are just as racist as anyone else.

    why do I have a sneaking suspicion if it was whites beating up blacks until they were too scared to go to school, half your country would be in uproar
    That's not a suspicion, that's a fact.
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