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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    This is not the fact at all. You may fly a flag, just not from a free-standing flagpole.
    So he can do it on one of those 45 degreers then?

    Is there really a difference b/w a free standing flag pole and a screw in on the side of your house? I mean, the HOA is kinda getting a little technical with that dont ya think?

    I mean, its not like a free standing flag pole in a hood like that is not gonna be kept up, as obviously there are plenty of housing-nazi rules to not allow such an instance.

    I mean "you can have this flag pole, but you cant have this one.."

    Its a little I dont know, retarded? My parents neighborhood wher I grew up, my dad was the President of the HOA for a few years. Flag poles were allowed, and out of over 300 houses, there might have been 3 flag poles for the entire hood. Its not a common thing to begin with. Unless its a strictly military hood, which, ours was and it still wasnt an abundant thing.

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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    So he can do it on one of those 45 degreers then?

    Is there really a difference b/w a free standing flag pole and a screw in on the side of your house? I mean, the HOA is kinda getting a little technical with that dont ya think?

    I mean, its not like a free standing flag pole in a hood like that is not gonna be kept up, as obviously there are plenty of housing-nazi rules to not allow such an instance.

    I mean "you can have this flag pole, but you cant have this one.."

    Its a little I dont know, retarded? My parents neighborhood wher I grew up, my dad was the President of the HOA for a few years. Flag poles were allowed, and out of over 300 houses, there might have been 3 flag poles for the entire hood. Its not a common thing to begin with. Unless its a strictly military hood, which, ours was and it still wasnt an abundant thing.
    Rules are rules, read the fine print.....

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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Rules are rules, read the fine print.....
    Yeah exactly, that is why I moved to the country so that I can be free from all these idiotic nonsensical rules of some pleeb 4 houses down who thinks I am to much a hick b/c I have a flag pole in my yard.

    Of course there are rules out in the country too. But none of the type you see in HOAs. Man and his control of all aspects. You can find it in any instance.

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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You are mistaken, HOAs usually require you to sign a contract (upon purchase) that include the covenants and you agree to pay an annual fee. That fee pays for services undertaken or contracted by the HOA, including paying lawyers to force you to follow the rules if necessary.
    I understand what you're saying. What I'm saying is that he wasn't forced though. If I don't feel like I agree with all the terms on a contract. I don't sign it. I'm not bound to to. Once I do? It is safe to say that I've agreed to everything to everything on it. There a few other hundred neighborhoods he could have moved into in Virginia that I'm sure would allow free standing flag poles and have no rules on free standing flag poles.
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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I understand what you're saying. What I'm saying is that he wasn't forced though. If I don't feel like I agree with all the terms on a contract. I don't sign it. I'm not bound to to. Once I do? It is safe to say that I've agreed to everything to everything on it. There a few other hundred neighborhoods he could have moved into in Virginia that I'm sure would allow free standing flag poles and have no rules on free standing flag poles.
    It really irks me about libertarian minded people who move to neighborhoods that have HOAs and rules. I've lived in both HOA neighborhoods and ones without (currently live in one without). The ones with are generally very pristine, monochromatic (figuratively) and consistently 'nice'. I chose to leave. To live in one that was eclectic, colorful and patchy (and HOA free).

    I never once considered flouting the rules because I didn't like them.

    Alot of people move to neighborhoods with HOAs because they like those neighborhoods. They want to live around people who agree with them. When you move into those neighborhoods you sign something that says that you will abide by the system and standards, presumably because you agree with them.

    What is so hard about this? I am not getting where this veteran was picked on. He is the one who broke his agreement with his neighbors, not the other way around.

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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Then don't buy the house with an HOA agreement. It is simple as that.
    I know. They act like someone it putting a gun to their head and FORCING them to buy the house.

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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    This is not the fact at all. You may fly a flag, just not from a free-standing flagpole.
    Virginia law forbids an HOA from NOT allowing an American or one of the armed forces flags to be flown.

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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Virginia law forbids an HOA from NOT allowing an American or one of the armed forces flags to be flown.
    That's not in dispute. The flag pole was the problem.

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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Virginia law forbids an HOA from NOT allowing an American or one of the armed forces flags to be flown.
    That may be so, but my point is that the argument was never about flying a flag, it was about the pole.
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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    It's a purely legal issue, does his CMOH change his legal status?
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