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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    I am former military. A flag is NOT flying properly if it is not on a regulation flag pole.

    That is life. Deal with it.

    We know you're a right-wing pro-HOA person. It's ok. We forgive you.
    I don't care if you're a former soldier, that doesn't mean you understand contracts. Like my HOA, you are allowed to have a flagpole attached to the side of your house; everybody knows how that works. And that's what this HOA allows. He could have his flag on a pole attached to his house, but not a free-standing pole in the front of his yard. Are we clear on that now?
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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I don't care if you're a former soldier, that doesn't mean you understand contracts. Like my HOA, you are allowed to have a flagpole attached to the side of your house; everybody knows how that works. And that's what this HOA allows. He could have his flag on a pole attached to his house, but not a free-standing pole in the front of his yard. Are we clear on that now?
    I have TWO degrees in legal studies. I understand contracts better than you do. HOAs are scumbag-control freaks who feel the need to control what other people do with their homes.

    Furthermore, the man is a VET, he WILL follow military procedure in mounting and flying a flag. Military procedure dictates that a flag MUST be mounted on a regulation flag pole. That is procedure.

    Here is the procedure:

    The following information is provided in selecting the proper halyard
    to be used for displaying a personal flag or command pennant with the U.S.
    national ensign:

    a. POLEMAST - Personal flag/command pennant not flown.
    b. POLEMAST WITH CROSSTREE - Outermost halyard, right-hand crosstree.
    c. POLEMAST WITH GAFF - Peak of pole.
    d. POLEMAST WITH CROSSTREE AND GAFF - Peak of pole.
    ORIGINAL
    15-1

    NTP 13(B)
    NOTE: If a Naval activity uses a polemast as the normal point of display of
    a personal flag or command pennant, and a personal flag or foreign
    ensign is required during an official visit of, or gun salute to, a
    civil official or foreign official or officer, it shall be displayed
    from the polemast, and the personal flag/command pennant of the
    officer in command shall be displayed at some other point within the
    command.

    1504. SIZE TO BE FLOWN
    The table shown below may be used as a guide in selecting the
    appropriate size personal flag or command pennant to be flown at a shore
    activity from flagstaffs of varying heights.
    ABroad or Burgee
    Flagstaff Heights Personal Flags Command Pennants
    Less than 35 feet #7 - 1 foot 10 #8 - 1 foot 2
    inches by 2 feet inches by 1 foot
    8 inches 6 inches
    Greater than 35 feet #6 - 3 feet 7 #6 - 2 feet by 2
    inches by 5 feet feet 7 inches

    Additionally, again, because you obviously missed it, LOCAL LAW PREVENTS INTERFERENCE WITH FLYING THE NATIONAL FLAG. As such, the cocksuckers in the HOA are TRUMPED.

    You are WRONG. Accept it.

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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Furthermore, the man is a VET, he WILL follow military procedure in mounting and flying a flag. Military procedure dictates that a flag MUST be mounted on a regulation flag pole. That is procedure.
    I am also a vet and I fly my flag on a pole at 45 degreees in front of my house.

    He is a vet and no longer in the military therfore he does NOT have to follow military protocol in flying the flag. It is not a requirement for Vets, nor is it a requirement for others to fly the flag in this manner.

    Please do not pretend to speak for all Vets.

    I don't like HOA at all, however, they are LEGAL and when people buy a house they are WELL AWARE of it. If you don't want to follow an HOA, don't buy a ****ing house that has one. Again, this is simple.

    Just because the man is a CMOA recipient does NOT mean that he can just do whatever the hell he wants.

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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    HOA are ridiculous. I refuse to live in a neighborhood that tells me what color I can paint my house, what trees I'm allowed to plant...or whether I can have a flag pole in my yard.
    But you will vote for government mandated health care, pay for other's abortions, force people to purchase health insurance, etc.

    Tell me, dd.....where are you on the EPA's designation that global warming is a human endangerment menaing the government will be managing much more than what color you can paint your home.

    For the love of God!

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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    HOAs are scumbag-control freaks who feel the need to control what other people do with their homes.

    Now that is about the most true thing I have seen in a while. Thanks Vader for speaking truth to HOA here.


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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Vader, what legal degrees do you have?
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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    I have TWO degrees in legal studies. I understand contracts better than you do. HOAs are scumbag-control freaks who feel the need to control what other people do with their homes.

    Furthermore, the man is a VET, he WILL follow military procedure in mounting and flying a flag. Military procedure dictates that a flag MUST be mounted on a regulation flag pole. That is procedure.

    Here is the procedure:

    The following information is provided in selecting the proper halyard
    to be used for displaying a personal flag or command pennant with the U.S.
    national ensign:

    a. POLEMAST - Personal flag/command pennant not flown.
    b. POLEMAST WITH CROSSTREE - Outermost halyard, right-hand crosstree.
    c. POLEMAST WITH GAFF - Peak of pole.
    d. POLEMAST WITH CROSSTREE AND GAFF - Peak of pole.
    ORIGINAL
    15-1

    NTP 13(B)
    NOTE: If a Naval activity uses a polemast as the normal point of display of
    a personal flag or command pennant, and a personal flag or foreign
    ensign is required during an official visit of, or gun salute to, a
    civil official or foreign official or officer, it shall be displayed
    from the polemast, and the personal flag/command pennant of the
    officer in command shall be displayed at some other point within the
    command.

    1504. SIZE TO BE FLOWN
    The table shown below may be used as a guide in selecting the
    appropriate size personal flag or command pennant to be flown at a shore
    activity from flagstaffs of varying heights.
    ABroad or Burgee
    Flagstaff Heights Personal Flags Command Pennants
    Less than 35 feet #7 - 1 foot 10 #8 - 1 foot 2
    inches by 2 feet inches by 1 foot
    8 inches 6 inches
    Greater than 35 feet #6 - 3 feet 7 #6 - 2 feet by 2
    inches by 5 feet feet 7 inches

    Additionally, again, because you obviously missed it, LOCAL LAW PREVENTS INTERFERENCE WITH FLYING THE NATIONAL FLAG. As such, the cocksuckers in the HOA are TRUMPED.

    You are WRONG. Accept it.
    You should ask for your money back, you got cheated.
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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You should ask for your money back, you got cheated.
    OMG, this is BRILLIANT!


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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I am also a vet and I fly my flag on a pole at 45 degreees in front of my house.

    He is a vet and no longer in the military therfore he does NOT have to follow military protocol in flying the flag. It is not a requirement for Vets, nor is it a requirement for others to fly the flag in this manner.

    Please do not pretend to speak for all Vets.

    I don't like HOA at all, however, they are LEGAL and when people buy a house they are WELL AWARE of it. If you don't want to follow an HOA, don't buy a ****ing house that has one. Again, this is simple.

    Just because the man is a CMOA recipient does NOT mean that he can just do whatever the hell he wants.
    He is a World War II vet. He is going to follow protocol whether he has to do so or not.

    Next, and for the 25th time, the law in that state prohibits laws deny persons the right to fly the national pennant. The HOA's contract violated local law ... AND THEREFORE AS A MATTER OF LAW IT IS UNENFORCEABLE.

    Since it is unenforceable.... HE IS NOT REQUIRED TO FOLLOW IT.

    You are wrong.

    Move on.

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    Re: Virginia Veteran Wins Battle to Keep His Flagpole in Yard

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    OMG, this is BRILLIANT!

    Get back in the kitchen and make me some pie!


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