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    Re: AP sources: Dems reach deal to drop gov't-run plan

    Quote Originally Posted by carlkay58 View Post
    Yep pretty much. But this time its the Democrats screwing the people so the rich bankers, insurance, and investment folk get richer. They have to recover those multi-million dollar jobs that they lost in the past year or so.
    They already did. The bailout funneled tons of our money to just those folk. Man, I wish we had more than just one political party in this nation.
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    Re: AP sources: Dems reach deal to drop gov't-run plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    They already did. The bailout funneled tons of our money to just those folk. Man, I wish we had more than just one political party in this nation.
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    Re: AP sources: Dems reach deal to drop gov't-run plan

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I doubt far-left Dems will vote for something without a public option.
    And yet, they will continue to blame the GOP for the failure of health care reform(tm).

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    Re: AP sources: Dems reach deal to drop gov't-run plan

    on the issue of health care reform the 2 parties, red and blue, could not be more polarly apart

    i'm very surprised any observer might see differently

    don't forget the body of this bill

    1. mandates upon individuals to buy for themselves that which they can't afford in the first place, fines if they don't, with threats of jail time at the end of that dreary, despotic road

    2. half a T cuts to m&m

    3. mandates upon already bankrupt states to pick up some 2B of the burden, unfunded

    4. ten years of revenues vs only 6 years of benefits

    5. weak enforcement against illegals

    6. quarter T doc fix, off budget

    7. higher premiums, according to cbo

    8. cost curved steepened up---cbo

    9. taxes on small biz, large biz, targeted industries

    10. taxes on lower, middle and upper class

    11. 20M americans still uncovered

    12. the real cost, first 10 years of full implementation, 2014 to 2024---2.5T

    13. rationing of services like mammograms and screenings

    14. taxpayer money for abortion

    15. no tort reform, no addressing defensive costs

    16. no purchase across state lines

    17. expansion of medicare, already a huge unfunded liability, to tens of millions

    18. zeroing out medicare advantage

    19. obama's secret deal with pharma banning importation of drugs

    20. death to rural care

    21. end of home care

    22. the class act which will serve to attract the sick and elderly while chasing away the young and strong

    23. a bill written in complete secrecy

    24. reid has STILL not told AMERICA what's in it

    25. without the pretty PO what's in it for the party except pails full of pain

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    Re: AP sources: Dems reach deal to drop gov't-run plan

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I doubt far-left Dems will vote for something without a public option.
    Actually you're incorrect. Although a public option was probably the best plan in order to keep the insurance companies in check. This is actually better for us that want single-payer in many ways. By lowering the age of medicare it is the first step towards lowering it again and again, until we have a single-payer system, which is really what we should have anyway.
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    Re: AP sources: Dems reach deal to drop gov't-run plan

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Actually you're incorrect. Although a public option was probably the best plan in order to keep the insurance companies in check. This is actually better for us that want single-payer in many ways. By lowering the age of medicare it is the first step towards lowering it again and again, until we have a single-payer system, which is really what we should have anyway.
    Yeah! Now, the Medicare that's held out of our checks and matched by our employers will increase, along with the mandatory health care excise tax and mandatory policis that everyone will have to buy. That's pure genius!!!!

    How ass ****ed are we going to be with these clowns running the show??
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    Re: AP sources: Dems reach deal to drop gov't-run plan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah! Now, the Medicare that's held out of our checks and matched by our employers will increase, along with the mandatory health care excise tax and mandatory policis that everyone will have to buy. That's pure genius!!!!

    How ass ****ed are we going to be with these clowns running the show??
    Which is exactly why we need single-payer. It would bring the overall costs down....but you guys always want to fight against that.
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    Re: AP sources: Dems reach deal to drop gov't-run plan

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Which is exactly why we need single-payer. It would bring the overall costs down....but you guys always want to fight against that.
    Yeah, Medicare works so well and is so cost effective, that we need to just switch everyone to it. More brilliance!!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: AP sources: Dems reach deal to drop gov't-run plan

    you guys...

    LOL!

    medicare already bears 30+ trillion in unfunded liabilities

    Medicare (United States) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    now secretive harry wants to EXTEND it to 20 or 30 mil americans

    all while CUTTING it half a T over the next 10 years

    no way, it'll never go

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    Re: AP sources: Dems reach deal to drop gov't-run plan

    Much ado about nothing. This isn't going to pass like this. Harry is just trying to hide how bad he's failing by looking busy.

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