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    Re: Reid Compares Opponents of Health Care Reform to Supporters of Slavery

    Reid may have been making his point somewhat at the expense of his own party's historical leanings, and I have my doubts that he is ignorant of the history of slavery and politics in the USA.
    Not defending him, just trying to take out some of the heated rhetoric.
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    Re: Reid Compares Opponents of Health Care Reform to Supporters of Slavery

    It seems that the hyper-partisan hacks now use the Breaking News forum to post their partisan smear jobs as 'news'-worthy items.

    Is any mod every going to do anything?

    Something a senator said off the cuff or out of context is not 'news'. It's not even a story. It's just a quote.

    The BN guidelines need to be reformed so we don't have to wade through this garbage.

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    Re: Reid Compares Opponents of Health Care Reform to Supporters of Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    It seems that the hyper-partisan hacks now use the Breaking News forum to post their partisan smear jobs as 'news'-worthy items.
    You are among the worst of the partisans on this forum, and are wrong most of the time while doing it. I have already watched you condescend to a few posters on this forum and trying that same old "party switch" crap. I guess you must have missed the Robert Byrd N-word rant from only a few years ago, then the Harry Reid statement, and of course there is the race baiters from Jackson to Sharpton to Farrakhan to Obama, oh, and then there is that elitist attitude like you possess(which I can't figure out with your lack of critical thinking skills) that assumes that not only blacks can't do anything without gubment help, but neither can the "unwashed masses", face it, your little nutless wonder shot himself in the foot, and will probably be put to pasture because of his idiocy.

    Something a senator said off the cuff or out of context is not 'news'. It's not even a story. It's just a quote.
    I guess you don't understand the concept of an "out of context quote". There is NO contextual way this could have been less offensive.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Reid Compares Opponents of Health Care Reform to Supporters of Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    It seems that the hyper-partisan hacks now use the Breaking News forum to post their partisan smear jobs as 'news'-worthy items.

    Is any mod every going to do anything?

    Something a senator said off the cuff or out of context is not 'news'. It's not even a story. It's just a quote.

    The BN guidelines need to be reformed so we don't have to wade through this garbage.
    I don't have a problem with this article. This wasn't "off the cuff" or "out of context." Reid is just your basic loose canon at this point and it's not the first time.
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    Re: Reid Compares Opponents of Health Care Reform to Supporters of Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Reid may have been making his point somewhat at the expense of his own party's historical leanings, and I have my doubts that he is ignorant of the history of slavery and politics in the USA.
    Not defending him, just trying to take out some of the heated rhetoric.
    Social change is, and will always be, hard to achieve...
    Especially when it's forced on an unwilling public. If you think this issue is bad for democrats just wait till we get to cap and trade.


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    Health Care Reform
    41% Favor Health Care Plan, 51% Oppose
    Monday, December 07, 2009 Email to a Friend ShareThisAdvertisement
    The Senate worked through the weekend on its version of the national health care bill, with President Obama stopping by for a rare Sunday visit, but for the second week in a row, only 41% of U.S. voters favor the health care plan proposed by the president and congressional Democrats.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 51% oppose the plan. And as has been the case for months, the emotion’s on the sign of the naysayers: 40% Strongly Oppose the plan, while just 23% Strongly favor it.

    Support for the president’s health care plan fell to 38%, its lowest ever, just before Thanksgiving. Followed by two weeks at 41%, this marks the lowest extended period of support for the plan yet. With the exception of a few days following nationally televised presidential appeals for the legislation, the number of voters opposed to the plan has always exceeded the number who favor it.

    “This suggests that public opinion about the health care plan is hardening,” says Scott Rasmussen, president of Rasmussen Reports. “Despite the fact that most American believe our health care system needs major changes, most are opposed to what Congress is currently doing about it.” .....
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    Re: Reid Compares Opponents of Health Care Reform to Supporters of Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the part about the republicans being partisan and opposed to positive social change
    what's not to agree with?
    1: That the GOP somehow has the corner on partisanship
    2: That the 'social change' supported by the Dms/left is positive.

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    Re: Reid Compares Opponents of Health Care Reform to Supporters of Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    It seems that the hyper-partisan hacks now use the Breaking News forum to post their partisan smear jobs as 'news'-worthy items.

    Is any mod every going to do anything?

    Something a senator said off the cuff or out of context is not 'news'. It's not even a story. It's just a quote.

    The BN guidelines need to be reformed so we don't have to wade through this garbage.
    Repeat yourself much?

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    Re: Reid Compares Opponents of Health Care Reform to Supporters of Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    health care reform is the first example which comes to mind

    what reforms has the republican party offered up to improve access to healthcare for those who are now without it?
    False premise:
    -That government-mandated 'change' in this regard is necessarily positive.
    -That opposition to governmnt-mandated 'change' in this regard is necessarily negative

    You're confusing 'positive' with 'what you want'.

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    Re: Reid Compares Opponents of Health Care Reform to Supporters of Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    It seems that the hyper-partisan hacks now use the Breaking News forum to post their partisan smear jobs as 'news'-worthy items.
    This is breaking news. Republicans are asking the Senator either apologize or resign. And rightly so.

    Is any mod every going to do anything?
    Conspiracy no doubt.

    Something a senator said off the cuff or out of context is not 'news'. It's not even a story. It's just a quote.
    "A Senator", is the Majority leader in Congress and this follows much muud and unethical processes by the democratic Party leadership.

    The BN guidelines need to be reformed so we don't have to wade through this garbage.
    A recent member of DB, I would have enjoyed reading some of your anti-Bush rhetoric. What goes around....comes around.
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    Re: Reid Compares Opponents of Health Care Reform to Supporters of Slavery

    I am surprised that people are still shocked by what politicians say. Can it really be that anyone is surprised by a politician of either party comparing their enemies to Nazis, slave owners,..... It is simple politics and always have been. What will be good for the human race and US politics is when stupid statements stop becoming the mainstream news and especially the big story of the day.

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