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Iranian FM criticizes Swiss minaret ban decision

kaya'08 said:
Sure there is but their practices are restricted and are not given equality under the law. So they are not "free" to build mosques or synagogues or pray or practice their religion in the sense of the word.
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That is not true. The Ayatollah Khomeini himself issued a fatwa making Iranian Jews a protected minority. Iran's Constitution guarantees protection to the country's religious minorities.
 
Arcana XV said:
That is not true. The Ayatollah Khomeini himself issued a fatwa making Iranian Jews a protected minority. Iran's Constitution guarantees protection to the country's religious minorities.
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The Bahá'í Faith, Iran's largest non-Islamic religious minority, is not recognized and is persecuted. There have been reports of imprisonment, harassment, intimidation, and discrimination based on religious beliefs. Conversion is forbidden and the Hudud distributes different punishments for the same crimes between Muslims and non-muslims (muslims naturally recieving the lighter punishments).

In the case of adultery, for example, a Muslim man who is convicted of committing adultery with a Muslim woman receives 100 lashes; the sentence for a non-Muslim man convicted of adultery with a Muslim woman is death.

So dont tell me they are protected minorities and are free because thats a liberal LIE.
 
Ain't THAT a hoot? :rofl

The Iranians have absolutely NO high ground to stand on. The Swiss should have told them to STFU.
 
Arcana XV said:
Yes, they do. In fact, Jews and Christians are protected minorities by law.
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what about apostates who convert from Islam to Christianity? Could a jew become the Prime Minister of Iran?
 
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Tashah said:
Source: The Jerusalem Post

I agree with the Iranian FM here. The minaret ban projects intolerance and short-sightedness. I have a great respect for the Swiss people and I am fairly confident that this referendun will be repealed.
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Ah, I give so much credibility to anything a deranged fascist govt that condones child rape and murder of political deserters has to say...

"It is acceptable to derive sexual pleasue from an infant over the age of 3 as long as no penetration is involved" - Khomeni

Another pseudo liberal speaks.

Tashah said:
What are you talking about? There are lots of churches and synagogues in Iran.
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Toothpicvic said:
Ah, I give so much credibility to anything a deranged fascist govt that condones child rape and murder of political deserters has to say...

"It is acceptable to derive sexual pleasue from an infant over the age of 3 as long as no penetration is involved" - Khomeni

Another pseudo liberal speaks.
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I'm disgusted and interested. Do you have a source for this information?
 
Arch Enemy said:
I'm disgusted and interested. Do you have a source for this information?
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Islam Watch - "Sexual Perversion in Islam"

"A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister." - Khomeni

"It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs, and to kiss her.” - Khomeni
 
Toothpicvic said:
Islam Watch - "Sexual Perversion in Islam"

"A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister." - Khomeni

"It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs, and to kiss her.” - Khomeni
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I can't even begin to follow where Khomeini got that idea.
Probably has something to do with being a psycho.
 
what's next? Will Iranian officials condemn Burlesconi for objectifying women?
 
Other posted (exactly... I wonder how many christian church steeples are being constructed in Tehran. Or magnificent synagogues.)

Unaware of any Christian church steeples being constructed in Tehran, but there are Synagogues within Iran.
 
Arch Enemy said:
I can't even begin to follow where Khomeini got that idea.
Probably has something to do with being a psycho.
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He just found a loophole in the Koran. Intercourse before marriage is a sin and it's his Muslim duty to uphold the sanctity of marriage (but Allah never said anything about child sodomy or masturbating with an infant's thighs, so it provides an outlet for sexually repressed Iranians which doesn't defile the sanctity of marriage).
 
Tashah said:
Source: The Jerusalem Post

I agree with the Iranian FM here. The minaret ban projects intolerance and short-sightedness. I have a great respect for the Swiss people and I am fairly confident that this referendun will be repealed.
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It is fairly clear you understanding of of Islamic doctrine is non existent. This is not the religion of peace idiots believe it is. It's is a cult of hate and their goal is to rid the world of Infidels. By the way that is all Liberals who want to hold hands and sing Kumbya till the cows come home.

Do I sound like a radical on this issue? Well I hope to hell I do. This is one of those cases where your tolerance fantasies could get you killed.
It is an ignorant thing to do to automatically project you tolerance of others on to others.

Stop listening to what the so-called Islamic moderates tell you read the teaching they follow. Part of it says it's okay to lie to you all day long and THERE IS NO VALUE SYSTEM TO RESTRICT ANY THING THEY DO WHEN IT COMES TO DEALING WITH INFIDELS.

Their Koran's teaching are so radical it has commandments not too unlike the 10 commandments is Christianity. A major difference is for Christians to be forgiven of our sins wn have to accept Christ as our savior and only as for his forgiveness. In Islam they can go out and violate all of the Korans teachings and be forgiven for anything if they go out and kill Infidels.

Why do you think the 9-11 hijackers and major Hasan all went to strip clubs and drank? It was because they believed it would all be forgiven after they killed infidils.

You Naive Liberals need to wake up to reality before it catches up to you and leaves you without a head to think with.
 
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jujuman13 said:
Other posted (exactly... I wonder how many christian church steeples are being constructed in Tehran. Or magnificent synagogues.)

Unaware of any Christian church steeples being constructed in Tehran, but there are Synagogues within Iran.
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Yes, I said HOW MANY, not THERE ARE NONE.

Look at the discrepancy in numbers in comparison with mosques, coupled with the discrepancy in equality under iranian government.

Do you honestly believe it is better to be a christian or jew in iran than to be a muslim in western europe?
 
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Toothpicvic said:
He just found a loophole in the Koran. Intercourse before marriage is a sin and it's his Muslim duty to uphold the sanctity of marriage (but Allah never said anything about child sodomy or masturbating with an infant's thighs, so it provides an outlet for sexually repressed Iranians which doesn't defile the sanctity of marriage).
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Yeah sounds like an accurate conclusion. Sometimes I wish the Prophet would be more exact with wording next time he comes :)
 
I think that all of the posters at DP should study "political bias optional, civility a must".
Do we know the full unbiased reason as to why the Swiss are supposedly banning these things?
And IMO, the Iranians and their government have zero creditability where it comes to decency and respect of others.
 
earthworm said:
I think that all of the posters at DP should study "political bias optional, civility a must".
Do we know the full unbiased reason as to why the Swiss are supposedly banning these things?
And IMO, the Iranians and their government have zero creditability where it comes to decency and respect of others.
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It was a public referendum. It was people under the influence of the fear-mongering that the right-wing in Switzerland was playing off of.

Nothing more, nothing less . The minarets were not playing the call to worship. There are only four.

I suspect the right-wing's reason is one of nationalism. That their culture will be affected by these minarets. Or at least the image will.
 
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what about apostates who convert from Islam to Christianity? Could a Jew become the Prime Minister of Iran?
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It seems to be that the Iranians are still very intolerant of others; their religion sees to this....As they do live in one of the previous centuries, we should not even expect them to be as enlightened as we are..
That they apparently accept the Christians and Jews as "protected minorities" is quite an accomplishment.
Have they ever made any retribution or issued any formal apology for what they did in 1979??
Of course, I expect nothing from them until they forsake Islam.
 
Arch Enemy said:
It was a public referendum. It was people under the influence of the fear-mongering that the right-wing in Switzerland was playing off of.

Nothing more, nothing less . The minarets were not playing the call to worship. There are only four.

I suspect the right-wing's reason is one of nationalism. That their culture will be affected by these minarets. Or at least the image will.
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Nationalism in Europe - remember the last time ?

It seems as if we are not the only ones with "right-wing" problems...

And how many of these minarets do the Islamics have in our nation?
 
Arch Enemy said:
I think you should take a nice long trip to Irbid, Jordan, and come back and tell us if you find Islamist Extremists dancing in the street ontop of baby non-muslim skulls.

I've read your comments and I have presented my rebuttals to your comments, but I rarely ever get any feedback from you . So I am just going to decide that you're myopic and more willing to believe ignorantly based fictitious claims about a people you know little about.

Comparing Muslims to the KKK. GTFO, for reeealz.
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Excuse me, do you have a reading comprehension issue. I compared 15 million muslim extreamist to the KKK.
 
SgtRock said:
Excuse me, do you have a reading comprehension issue. I compared 15 million muslim extreamist to the KKK.
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Yeah and I am saying you cannot even begin to compare Muslim Extremism to the KKK.

Now. Where's that 15 million figure coming from?
 
Toothpicvic said:
He just found a loophole in the Koran. Intercourse before marriage is a sin and it's his Muslim duty to uphold the sanctity of marriage (but Allah never said anything about child sodomy or masturbating with an infant's thighs, so it provides an outlet for sexually repressed Iranians which doesn't defile the sanctity of marriage).
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So, is this the Koranic version of, "I did not have sex with that woman"?.....:roll:
 
earthworm said:
Nationalism in Europe - remember the last time ?

It seems as if we are not the only ones with "right-wing" problems...

And how many of these minarets do the Islamics have in our nation?
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What nation is that, professor?......:confused:
 
earthworm said:
Nationalism in Europe - remember the last time ?

It seems as if we are not the only ones with "right-wing" problems...

And how many of these minarets do the Islamics have in our nation?
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If we had a direct democracy I think we would have some crazy problems haha
 
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