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    Re: Iranian FM criticizes Swiss minaret ban decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    The best thing Europe can do is to embrace Swiss rejection of Islam....
    It will be Europe's salvation in the end.....
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    I agree with the Swiss ban on minarets. And I think the next step should be a ban on muslim immigration to Switzerland. In fact I think all western nations should ban muslim immigration until muslims clean house of the radicals within their religion. I admit this would be a formidable task considering estimates put the number of radicals at 1% of 1.5 billion. Thats approximately 15 million jihadist worldwide. To put that number in perspective there are approximately 5000-8000 current members of the KKK. The KKK had almost 6 million members at its peak in 1924. Of course the KKK was located mainly in the USA and many Americans vocally condemned them. The Civil Rights movement in America brought down the klan and other groups like them. What it will take to minimalize and eliminate radical Islamic extreamist? It will take a strong visual and vocal movement of moderate muslims to stand up and strongly condemn those who claim to be fighting jihad for Allahs cause against the kafir. I would like to point out that this has yet to take place in mass such as the civil rights movement did. I think that there is a reason it has not taken place. IMO the majority of muslims secretly sympathize with the extreamist among them. As of yet I have seen nothing to make me think otherwise.
    You both can stop wetting yourselves now. The ban is on minarets alone. Not mosques, not Islam and definitely not Muslims. Even those who brought the referendum to the table have absolutely no intention of banning Islam or Muslims from Switzerland.
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    Re: Iranian FM criticizes Swiss minaret ban decision

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Part of being viewed as, or setting yourself up as, a paragon of virtue in any respect also sets you up for criticism if you fall short -- and no matter where it comes from or how ironic it seems, it's justified.
    Such pretensions are also often associated with deception, betrayal, and outright hypocrisy. (though not always)

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    None of you can honestly tell me that:



    . . . is in any way untrue, can you?
    I won't, but it doesn't matter. It is an issue that should be decided by the swiss people. It is their country, and I certainly won't presume that they are somehow intolerant just because some iranian official complains about their building regulations (or preferences).

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    Re: Iranian FM criticizes Swiss minaret ban decision

    Quote Originally Posted by other View Post
    Such pretensions are also often associated with deception, betrayal, and outright hypocrisy. (though not always)
    Could you maybe rephrase that? In Engrish?

    Quote Originally Posted by other View Post
    I won't, but it doesn't matter. It is an issue that should be decided by the swiss people. It is their country, and I certainly won't presume that they are somehow intolerant just because some iranian official complains about their building regulations (or preferences).
    I'm not presuming that they are somehow intolerant just because some Iranian official complains about their building regulations (or preferences). I've already reached certain conclusions on my own, which agree with the Iranian PM's, and I'm saying that we can't discard his words just because he's the PM of Iran.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Iranian FM criticizes Swiss minaret ban decision

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Could you maybe rephrase that? In Engrish? .
    No, I don't think so. Sounds good as is to me.



    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I'm not presuming that they are somehow intolerant just because some Iranian official complains about their building regulations (or preferences). I've already reached certain conclusions on my own, which agree with the Iranian PM's, and I'm saying that we can't discard his words just because he's the PM of Iran.
    Right, and I'm not discarding what the Iranian said either. As they say, even A broken clock is right twice a day.

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    Re: Iranian FM criticizes Swiss minaret ban decision

    Quote Originally Posted by other View Post
    No, I don't think so. Sounds good as is to me.
    Have it your way, but since I couldn't make heads or tails of what you meant, I'm going to ignore your comment on the grounds of incomprehensibility.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Iranian FM criticizes Swiss minaret ban decision

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Part of being viewed as, or setting yourself up as, a paragon of virtue in any respect also sets you up for criticism if you fall short -- and no matter where it comes from or how ironic it seems, it's justified.

    None of you can honestly tell me that:



    . . . is in any way untrue, can you?
    Do realize that you're arguing against arguments against hypocrisy.
    I'll be damned, but I think that makes your arguments for hypocrisy.

    I do not support the Swiss move, does that mean that I do not find it hypocrite that Iran condemns them?
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    Re: Iranian FM criticizes Swiss minaret ban decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Do realize that you're arguing against arguments against hypocrisy.
    I'll be damned, but I think that makes your arguments for hypocrisy.

    I do not support the Swiss move, does that mean that I do not find it hypocrite that Iran condemns them?
    I'm not addressing the subject of hypocrisy in any way, shape or form.

    I'm just saying that we can't go LOL IRAN in response to Iranian comments, because they're true.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Iranian FM criticizes Swiss minaret ban decision

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I'm not addressing the subject of hypocrisy in any way, shape or form.

    I'm just saying that we can't go LOL IRAN in response to Iranian comments, because they're true.
    And since I, just like the other two you've decided to honorably quote, have not shared any of this phenomenal you're so charmingly call "LOL IRAN", but rather, have made a claim for hypocrisy in the Iranian statement - this had little to do with our comments that were fully aimed against the definition of the term 'hypocrisy'.
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    Re: Iranian FM criticizes Swiss minaret ban decision

    If I could follow what you just said, I'd comment on it.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Iranian FM criticizes Swiss minaret ban decision

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    If I could follow what you just said, I'd comment on it.
    I would take it in mind and adjust my further comments to you to the fitting brain speed.
    "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."

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