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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Nothing in the Constitution about that though. Read it.
    9th and 10th amendment

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    Where does it say that anywhere in the Constitution? Now you have to go find it. Have fun.
    9th and 10th amendment

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    But you get my point about burkas anyway. You won't admit it, but you do.
    No, your point, as has been the case with much of your arguments I have thus far encountered, is nothing more than hyperbole garbage based on nothing. The government cannot force me to wear anything beyond decency. They can say I can't go outside in view of the public naked; and that's where it ends.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    I would define thinkheaded as someone who read the posts (well I hope you did) in which we discussed the decorations not being bought ON BUDGET and then still trying to ram that point home...
    That's just one issue. Even if something is paid for with private funds, it is authorized by a law to be put on public land.

    But yeah, I'd say its "thinkheaded" of me.

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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

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    Surely that is the apex of jesting. Obama is the king communist. Down with Obama and up with The Pope.
    no up with obama and down with capitalism

    we need a new order of communism.

    capitalism has ruined america
    i am acidrain! and i approve of this message

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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    "Intervene"? In what? This is the government's actions we're talking about in the first place.

    The federal issue is a non-issue. The First Amendment binds the states too.
    that depends on whether or not it is a constitutional matter... I wouldn't consider it one. It is the federal gov't interfering in a local community when say, an ACLU lawyer comes to town, sees the 10 commandments in the county courthouse, and sues.



    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    By that standard, I could set up a complete theocracy, with Imams running the government and making the laws, and as long as you weren't "forced" to worship anything, it would be constitutional.
    Governments can do nothing without the use or threat of force. So no, you couldn't.

    You could set up a system, say you call it a theocracy, but I could simply ignore you. Now, if you became a nusance, putting up symbols to piss me off, I might sue you for being a nusance, but not necessarily for violating my constitutional rights.

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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    9th and 10th amendment



    9th and 10th amendment
    Anyone can just say that, over and over.

    I do hope you fully support Roe v. Wade.

    But you get my point about burkas, though you won't admit it.

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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Wrong. They can't violate anyone's rights.
    Of course they can't. Displaying a religious symbol on public land does not violate anyone's rights.

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    Dear God, I've already explained in detail that the states are also bound by the Federal Bill of Rights.
    And I've already told you why you're wrong.

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    Sidewalks are public land.

    But never mind. Can the people vote to ban any religious practice by individuals on public land?
    People are free to do as they like so long as they do not infringe upon the rights of others in the process.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    That's just one issue. Even if something is paid for with private funds, it is authorized by a law to be put on public land.

    But yeah, I'd say its "thinkheaded" of me.
    haha Good catch, consider it edited. However, you still have yet to prove (that means other than just saying it or using talking points) that decorations = law. Give us some links or something man. Back up your talk.

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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Of course they can't.
    You just insisted that they could do anything they want.

    Displaying a religious symbol on public land does not violate anyone's rights.
    Sometimes it does.

    People are free to do as they like so long as they do not infringe upon the rights of others in the process.
    Yes, so stop yammering about "their land, their choice" and all that crap.

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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Anyone can just say that, over and over.

    I do hope you fully support Roe v. Wade.
    What does Roe v. Wade have to do with you being wrong all the time? I told you exactly in the Constitution where it says what you wanted. The Constitution is not a limiter on the rights and liberties of the People. The Constitution limits the power and authority of the government. The People are the sovereigns, we have no limiter beyond not being able to infringe upon the rights of others, rightfully that is.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You just insisted that they could do anything they want.
    The people can do whatever they want. So long as they don't infringe upon the rights of others. If those people choose to put up a religious symbol on public property, it is their choice and decision and they are more than free to do so. There's nothing the government can rightfully do about it.

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    Sometimes it does.
    In the context for which we are talking about it, no it doesn't.

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    Yes, so stop yammering about "their land, their choice" and all that crap.
    I will, when you understand what that means.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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