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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    But that wouldn't make him a hypocrite is my only point.
    Why wouldn't it? What gives him the authority to decide how christians should act? Do I suddenly have the authority to decide how muslims should act? If christians know little about jesus, then tooth knows nothing. His hypocrisy has been revealed.

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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Your boy appointed an Islamic outreach liason. Why aren't you crying about that? I'm sure if there were a Christian outreach liason, you would be beside yourself offense.
    We'll they do both think that there is a war upon them. Except one is slightly more real than the other.

    I dont think we need a christian outreach liaison the muslims are 'out' there and need reached out to. The christians are 'in' our country, or even 'are' our country. Thatd be a n inreach liaison.

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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    Why wouldn't it? What gives him the authority to decide how christians should act? Do I suddenly have the authority to decide how muslims should act? If christians know little about jesus, then tooth knows nothing. His hypocrisy has been revealed.
    Its not hypocritical because he doesnt follow jesus. Christians purpotedly do.

    You do have a point.... /shrug.

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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Its not hypocritical because he doesnt follow jesus.
    And yet, tooth pretends he knows exactly what jesus would do.

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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    We'll they do both think that there is a war upon them. Except one is slightly more real than the other.

    I dont think we need a christian outreach liaison the muslims are 'out' there and need reached out to. The christians are 'in' our country, or even 'are' our country. Thatd be a n inreach liaison.

    OMG!! Muslims are viciticrats, too? I guess you don't care that an religious position within the current administration is a violation of the Constitution. 'Course, since it's a PC violation.
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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    The First Amendment, just like the other Nine Amendments in the Bill of Rights, is a worthless piece of ambiguous crap, dude. It could be reasonably construed to mean just about anything.
    Amendment I: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    What part do you see as ambiguous crap? Read the words, use the standard dictionary meanings, and there is no ambiguity that I can see. My understanding is:

    The federal government may not pass laws that:
    1. establish an offical national religion
    2. limit any religion or their practices
    3. allow prosecution of people or other entities for their opinions or views
    4. do not allow people to meet peaceably
    5. do not allow people to utilize the judicial branch of the government

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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by carlkay58 View Post
    Amendment I: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    What part do you see as ambiguous crap? Read the words, use the standard dictionary meanings, and there is no ambiguity that I can see. My understanding is:

    The federal government may not pass laws that:
    1. establish an offical national religion
    2. limit any religion or their practices
    3. allow prosecution of people or other entities for their opinions or views
    4. do not allow people to meet peaceably
    5. do not allow people to utilize the judicial branch of the government
    Most of that is ambiguous. For example:

    1. Where do you draw the line between having a state religion and simply having religious displays on govt property?

    2. What if I'm a voodoo practitioner and my religion requires me to practice cannibalism? Or if I'm a radical Muslim and my religion requires me to blow up the infidels. Should I have that right?

    3. "Yelling 'fire' in a movie theater isn't proctected by the 1st Amendment"

    Personally if I could go back in time, I'd have had the Founders' base our laws on common sense instead of an ambiguous constitution which to this day, people still argue over.
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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Its not hypocritical because he doesnt follow jesus. Christians purpotedly do.

    You do have a point.... /shrug.
    I'm more christlike than any Christian. All you have to do is study the teachings of Jesus to see what he'd do (whether you believe he's a god or not - Thomas Jefferson didn't and we still respect his views). Jesus would be rolling in his grave if he knew what modern Christianity has become.

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    If christians know little about jesus, then tooth knows nothing. His hypocrisy has been revealed.
    I know more about Jesus than you do because I've studied his life and beliefs from objective historical sources instead of just repeating what my pastor tells me "Jesus would do". You're also the guy who doesn't know the difference between Darwin and Dawkins so I don't think you know much period, do you?
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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by Toothpicvic View Post

    2. What if I'm a voodoo practitioner and my religion requires me to practice cannibalism? Or if I'm a radical Muslim and my religion requires me to blow up the infidels. Should I have that right?
    This is IMO, the biggest problem with how it's written. What if your religion requires hallucinogenic materials in ritual practice such as the controlled substances in some native American religious rituals? What do we do when the religious rituals run directly into controlled substances laws or security issues?

    Are we willing to say that a religion is not a religion? Who gets to do that?

    Scientology is largely a financial engine to extract as much money from its members in return for vague promises. Some consider that fraud. Are we to allow that because it's a religious practice?
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    Re: Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah, they might want you to be good. Hahahahah.
    Hahahaha is right.

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