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    Re: Jobs Summit: Real Progress or PR Stunt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I would agree with you but there is nothing funny about what Obama is doing to destroy this country.

    Here's another joke for you;
    Recession is when your neighbor loses their job.
    Depression is when you lose your Job.
    Recovery is when Obama loses his job.

    Obama excluded the the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the National Federation of Independent Business the two organizations who's members create the most jobs.

    This makes this summit another lie to add to the long list. It's all for show. Obama is a great one for saying he'll do XYand Z the whole time he's saying F.U. to us and his for his idiot worshipers believe every lying word he says because they are all brain dead.
    I listened to some cuts of this thing. I couldnt help but get the sense that Barack Obama thinks a company's job is to simply hire people and not worry about having a profit at all. It was like he was chastizing small businesses for not hiring people and instead trying to keep their profits.

    This guy and his goons are completely oblivious as to what the point of a company is. This is what happens when we elect people who have ZERO "0" business experience, who have done nothing but played around in the public sector their whole lives or taught in academia their whole life and think they know what is best for a business.

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    Re: Jobs Summit: Real Progress or PR Stunt?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, the taxes come from, where...? The people!


    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Your game of semantics will not work.
    LOL!

    taxes come from the people---mere semantics

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    Re: Jobs Summit: Real Progress or PR Stunt?

    boston's big dig was sposed to cost 2.8b

    instead, it came in at TWENTY TWO b's and took EIGHTEEN YEARS to complete

    and then it killed a motorist

    the new york times reported two saturdays ago that mere SERVICE on the debt, INTEREST ALONE, will approach ONE TRIL per by 2016 or 2017

    probably more than 30 of our states are individually bankrupt

    what's keynes say about that?

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    Re: Jobs Summit: Real Progress or PR Stunt?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    taxes come from the people---mere semantics
    It is semantics.

    This would be the equivalant of me saying:

    Business profits come from people, therefore businesses don't create wealth, people do.

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    Re: Jobs Summit: Real Progress or PR Stunt?

    empty verbiage

    taxes come from taxpayers

    sophistry is too high falutin a word for argumentation so mindless

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    Re: Jobs Summit: Real Progress or PR Stunt?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    empty verbiage

    taxes come from taxpayers

    sophistry is too high falutin a word for argumentation so mindless
    I'm not argueing that taxes don't come from people, taxpayers, whatever. Your right, that would be stupid; I don't care. Its just dumb to say that the government cannot create wealth because it gets taxes from people. Its equivilantly dumb to say businesses can't create wealth because their profits come from people, customers, whatever you want to call them.

    Good vocab though, I am impressed.
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    Re: Jobs Summit: Real Progress or PR Stunt?

    Obama didn't need a "job" summit....If he wants to stimulate the economy he should drop all of his job killing proposals.
    "The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without."

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    Re: Jobs Summit: Real Progress or PR Stunt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    Obama didn't need a "job" summit....If he wants to stimulate the economy he should drop all of his job killing proposals.
    The best thing Obama could do for the country and the world would be to reverse every action he has taken since he took office. You sure nailed this one!

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    Re: Jobs Summit: Real Progress or PR Stunt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    IMHO, government spending during times of economic expansion should be kept within a balanced budget. However, this is not a time of government expansion.
    Correction, government spending during times of economic expansion should be kept below a balanced budget, thereby allowing the expansion (or creation) of surpluses to pay down obligations and accumulate rainy day funds. Good government plans for unforeseeable disasters. Bad government doesn't.

    Quick question: if government can build a bridge, and in order to build a bridge you have to hire laborers, constructions firms, and buy resources; does this not create wealth?
    And the next obvious question is couldn't have such wealth been used more efficiently?

    Which then begs the next obvious question: would that wealth have been used at all? Inherently the problem with any opportunity cost counterargument. Given how people got the hell out of the stock market, I'm saying no.
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    Re: Jobs Summit: Real Progress or PR Stunt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    Obama didn't need a "job" summit....If he wants to stimulate the economy he should drop all of his job killing proposals.
    Based on the current job loss numbers, he doesn't need one.

    So what you do consider a job killing proposal?
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