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    Re: Poll: Isolationism soars among Americans

    Step 1: Build Walls and Border-stations 360 degrees around the nation, put guns in them, put men on guns.
    Step 2: Switch armed forces to Defense, at home and in Allied nations only.
    Step 3: Set up the BIG, big guns.
    Step 4: ???????
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    Trade for what we need, sell what others want, be as self sufficient as possible, and **** everyone but our closest allies.

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    Re: Poll: Isolationism soars among Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We probably shoulda reached out to the Nazis and the Commies, too. Yes?
    Yeah cause its not as if 1.5 billion people can be diverse in any way

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    Re: Poll: Isolationism soars among Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by scottsoperson View Post
    general mccrystal says we should reach out to the muslims. i think the solution is there.
    We are reaching out. With 33,000 more troops, more then a few hundred Reapers, a plethora of Predators, and some nasty looking special forces Cats.

    For once, I agree with Scott, I think that's the solution as well.
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    Re: Poll: Isolationism soars among Americans

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    The left depends on illegals votes for its power base?
    There have been rumors floating around to this effect. What we all do know for a fact is the plan is now to include illegal aliens, by mathmatical means I believe, in the us census. This has the effect of strenthening the democratic party power base. For example if the illegal aliens were not counted some states such as california would lose representatives in the house.
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    Re: Poll: Isolationism soars among Americans

    I would like to ask those same people polled if they know the difference between isolationism and nonintervention.
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    Re: Poll: Isolationism soars among Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    Very interesting. I agree in that America starts alot of problems, but I think it is kind of greedy of Americans to be willing to sacrifice the greater good of the world to just avoid the problems out there.

    America should possible interfere less in the world overall but America certainly shouldn't just "mind its own business." If anything, the problem is that we only interfere in the world to get gains for our own, when we should be concerned with interfering, if it will help the world as a whole.
    I'm not so sure we have added to the 'greater good of the world' since WWII. Vietnam was a disaster, Korea is still unresolved, and Iraq and Afghanistan were made worse by our interference. I'm not an isolationist in the economic sense, but I certainly favor the non-interventionist foreign policy that we had before WWII. I suppose I would have supported stopping Hitler sooner, but not if it led to the preventative wars of the Bush Doctrine. And I don't understand why it is our duty to defend South Korea or Israel or any other nation. If they ask the UN for help like Kuwait did that is one thing, but to keep 30,000 troops in Korea for 60 years is too much.
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    Re: Poll: Isolationism soars among Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    America should possible interfere less in the world overall but America certainly shouldn't just "mind its own business." If anything, the problem is that we only interfere in the world to get gains for our own, when we should be concerned with interfering, if it will help the world as a whole.
    Standard leftist pablum that got us mired down in Somalia. "We should only interfere when the UN tells us to."

    Yeah, that worked well. I'm more in favor of pulling back inside our own borders, letting Europe handle/pay for their own defense, letting Africa go to hell in a handbasket, letting the middle east blow themselves sky high, and paying off our debts to China so we don't have that hanging over our heads. Protect our borders, take care of our people, let the rest of the world handle their own business.
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    Re: Poll: Isolationism soars among Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    I would like to ask those same people polled if they know the difference between isolationism and nonintervention.
    I'm more disappointed than that. Why would anyone promote a policy of isolation when it's clearly failed and isn't reality any longer? The 20th century and the terrible events on 9-11 have offered more than one lesson, fellow Americans, none more important than......what is happening abroad will eventually lap up to our shores, it's inevitable. Our security today is increasingly dependent on pre-emptive action and non-isolationism.
    It was the Austrasians, that hewed on bravely through the thick of the fight, it was they who found and cut down the Saracen King.

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    Re: Poll: Isolationism soars among Americans

    Put you own house in order first and charity begins at home. Lots of hungry people out there now.

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    Re: Poll: Isolationism soars among Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    what is happening abroad will eventually lap up to our shores, it's inevitable. Our security today is increasingly dependent on pre-emptive action and non-isolationism.
    It's entirely likely that the events of 9/11 wouldn't have lapped up to our shores if we hadn't meddled so much in the middle east.

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